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Sep 14, 2009 07:37
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French term

affichant le fameux loup

French to English Other Textiles / Clothing / Fashion
This is the sentence: "...James Bond, avec un coton ouaté grisâtre ***affichant le fameux loup***, perd beaucoup de son charme et de son sérieux."

It's about look and clothing.
I think this phrase is somewhat idiomatic.

Thanks for your help.
Proposed translations (English)
3 +1 wearing the famous grey-sweatshirt-with-wolves
4 +1 sporting the popular wolf design
3 displaying the wolf in question
Change log

Sep 14, 2009 07:55: Stéphanie Soudais changed "Field" from "Art/Literary" to "Other" , "Field (specific)" from "Education / Pedagogy" to "Textiles / Clothing / Fashion" , "Field (write-in)" from "self-help book" to "Accessory"

Sep 14, 2009 11:35: Stéphanie Soudais changed "Field (write-in)" from "Accessory" to "(none)"

Discussion

Gabriella Ralaivao (asker) Sep 14, 2009:
It's kind of trendy style though, even Barack Obama, Kim Jong Il, Ossama Bin Laden etc.. wore it. Follow the trend ;)
Susan Nicholls Sep 14, 2009:
Right, I see what you mean. I only looked at the French one. So there is a worldwide wolf thing... To think I nearly missed out!
Lianne Wilson Sep 14, 2009:
Do wolves swim? Grey, perhaps not, but the naff-clothing-with-wolves-on phenomenon definitely exists. I've seen a fair few people in black wolf t-shirts and, as I say in my answer, just take a look at the Three Wolf Moon meme!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Wolf_Moon
Susan Nicholls Sep 14, 2009:
Do wolves swim? I wonder whether this wouldn´t be a case for cultural equivalence. I can imagine a suburban Frenchman in his faded grey sweatpants and hoodie emblazoned with a wolf transfer on the back looking particularly naff, but I can´t say I have ever seen anyone in London dressed like this. Do I just visit the wrong places, or would the equivalent be something else entirely? In any case I´m not sure "famous" would be the right adjective outside of France.
jmleger Sep 14, 2009:
Y a loup et loup Comme une louve sous son loup
Quand je vous ferai des petits
Vous banderez vos yeux jaloux
Avec un loup de satin gris
Gabriella Ralaivao (asker) Sep 14, 2009:
The book describes few steps to follow if one wishes to gain self-confidence. Then it states "Clothes make the man". It doesn't talk about the real James Bond, but ask a man to consider himself as James Bond.
Whole sentence: "En matière d'apparence, l'habillement est primordial. Il va sans dire que James Bond, avec un coton ouaté grisâtre ***affichant le fameux loup***, perd beaucoup de son charme et de son sérieux."
Bourth (X) Sep 14, 2009:
Could we have the WHOLE sentence? What is made of coton ouaté grisé, what has James Bond got to do with it? Is it JB or some item of clothing that has this wolf on it/him? Makes me think of the famous Lacoste crocodile, but I'm not familiar with a wolf as a clothing logo.
Stéphanie Soudais Sep 14, 2009:
Un loup est un "eye mask"

Proposed translations

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2 hrs
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wearing the famous grey-sweatshirt-with-wolves

Or something along those lines.
It seems there is a lot of mocking in French on the net for people who wear clothing, often t-shirts or sweatshirts, with wolves on.

Here's a fine example: http://monsieurreponse.blogspot.com/2008/11/pourquoi-le-loup...
"Je pense que la pire combinaison, c'est un jacket de jeans avec un loup dans le dos. Ou mieux, des joggings gris bien usés agencés à un hoodie en coton ouaté avec des loups (déjà vu dans le train... ouch)!

Y faut être fier pour mettre ça, et pas avoir peur du ridicule..."

So the point is that there's a stereotypical greey hoodie with a wolf or wolves on that is associated with really bad style. Style that would make James Bond seem a lot less suave.

My suggestion is not perfect, dependent on style, but something like that certainly seems to fit this tongue in cheek tone.

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Note added at 2 hrs (2009-09-14 10:01:42 GMT)
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To be honest I'd be quite tempted to reference the (in)famous Three Wolf Moon t-shirt, but perhaps that's just my love of pop culture net references... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Wolf_Moon

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Note added at 2 hrs (2009-09-14 10:08:05 GMT)
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Or even 'the (in)famous grey-sweatshirt-with-wolves' or 'the infamous grey-sweatshirt-with-wolves'.

Perhaps 'wearing the (in)famous/famous/infamous wolf-embalzoned grey sweatshirt', if you want something with a more standard phrasing and a good deal less hyphens :)

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Note added at 2 hrs (2009-09-14 10:08:37 GMT)
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Sorry, typo there, I mean 'emblazoned', of course.

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Note added at 6 hrs (2009-09-14 14:31:44 GMT)
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Wow, it's actually *exactly* about Three Wolf Moon? Awesome! That's what it instantly reminded me of, so I'm pleasantly surprised it was actually that!
In that case I'd say that Three Wolf Moon is probably even more famous in English than it is in French, since it's an English meme originally, so you should have no trouble using it.
Reference:

http://rlv.zcache.com/wolf_bret_sweatshirt_fotc_flight_of_the_conchords-p235320978787163161ycmz_400.jpg

Note from asker:
Yes, you're right, something in the line. "famous wolf-emblazoned grey sweatshirt" is not bad, I will keep "famous" though as it still connotes something negative in this phrase. Thanks
It's exactly the Three Wolf Moon T-shirt. The text is about men's self-confidence and seduction power.
Peer comment(s):
agree Linda Sansome (X) : Also the connotation of a 'wolf' as a predatory male? The point being that James Bond does not need to dress in a 'wolf-emblazoned sweat-shirt'. He is alpha male without displaying it on his clothing!
2 hrs
Thanks Linda! I agree, we don't need to worry about 'The Man with the Grey Wolf Hoodie' just yet!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks for your help. It is the Three Wolves Moon Shirt. The writer really made reference to it."
33 mins

displaying the wolf in question

I lack context to be sure that this proposal is a real good one. But it fits if Bond is wearing a T-shirt with a picture of a wolf who was mentioned before...
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+1
2 hrs

sporting the popular wolf design

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Peer comment(s):
agree Claire Chapman
6 days
Thank you Claire
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