Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
vor jemandem bestehen / in jemandens Augen bestehen
English translation:
to pass muster
Added to glossary by
Jutta Scherer
Nov 4, 2009 16:28
14 yrs ago
German term
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vor jemandem bestehen / in jemandens Augen bestehen
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Zitat:
Die Notwendigkeit des Umdenkens resultiert [...] aus einem gründlich missverstandenen Liberalismus [...] , der so *vor keinem der großen liberalen Denker hätte bestehen können*.
(Stammt aus einem Buch über Corporate Governance.)
Die Notwendigkeit des Umdenkens resultiert [...] aus einem gründlich missverstandenen Liberalismus [...] , der so *vor keinem der großen liberalen Denker hätte bestehen können*.
(Stammt aus einem Buch über Corporate Governance.)
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SinnerAtta
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to pass muster
To wit, "pass muster" is a term borrowed from military usage. It relates to coming through a rigorous inspection unscathed.
Example sentence:
"... which/that would not have passed muster by some of the great liberal thinkers..."
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David Williams
: Would work too
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Teresa Reinhardt
: This avoids the problem Ingeborg ran into, but it's maybe a bit too informal (despite its military history - cf. its devolution into 'cut the mustard')- depending on style
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Stuart Dykes
: Yes, but surely "passed muster with" rather than "by"?
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks, everybody!
I chose this suggestion for points because it conveys the meaning and fits the tone (and I learnt a new expression :-))"
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to survive someone's scrutiny
"...would not have survived the scrutiny of any of the great..."
Vielleicht ist hier ein etwas zu starker Fokus auf die "Prüfung" durch die Denker, aber das "bestehen" hat ja einen ähnlichen Beigeschmack...
Vielleicht ist hier ein etwas zu starker Fokus auf die "Prüfung" durch die Denker, aber das "bestehen" hat ja einen ähnlichen Beigeschmack...
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Anne-Marie Grant (X)
: I was going to suggest 'to withstand scrutiny from'
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Thank you, yes, that is better!
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Lancashireman
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...me too! Thank you.
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..would not have measured up to ... (the great liberal philosphers/ thinkers of the day)
I think it needs to be expressed that there is a certain standard which was set by liberal thinkers of the past
Note from asker:
| Dear Ingeborg and everybody, "measure up to" would be a superb translation for "NEBEN keinem der großen Denker ... bestehen können". I think what the author wants to express here is that any of the great thinkers would have torn those new concepts to shreds, had he come across them. |
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David Williams
: ...would not have measured up to the standards of ...
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thanks, David
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Inge Meinzer
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danke, Inge
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Lena Nusselt (X)
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thanks, Lena
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Teresa Reinhardt
: agree with Asker
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I guess there is a fine nuance here; so probably it is more in the direction of "able to withstand the scrutiniy; thanks for pointing that out
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Stuart Dykes
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I see my "errant ways" now, it is indeed a fine distinction
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Nicole Backhaus
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well, thanks, Nicole; I suppose I was a bit off themark, see Teresa's and the asker's comment; but thanks anyway :)
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jaime losantos
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could not compare with any/ withstand comparison with any
just another option for you to consider
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to hold its own against / in the eyes of (someone)
Does that help ?
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Rolf Keiser
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which would have been scorned upon
which would have been totally negated by the great liberal philosophers and schools of thought
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Andrea Garfield-Barkworth
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couldn't have stood up
Just an idea.
Example sentence:
couldn\\\'t have stood up in the face of any of the great liberal thinkers
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which would have been dismissed out of hand...
...by any of the great liberal thinkers....
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withstand something/someone
wouldn't have withstood any of the great liberal thinkers...
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withstand the rigor of
withstand the scrutiny of
withstand the test of...
You can also add whatever else you like
withstand the rigor of
withstand the scrutiny of
withstand the test of...
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