Jan 27, 2011 15:53
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Spanish term

El paisaje caminado

Spanish to English Art/Literary Poetry & Literature
Es el título de un poema que describe un lugar: paisaje, patrimonio, historia... tengo varias opciones, pero estaría muy agradecido si me pueden dar alguna sugerencia.

Gracias de antemano.
Change log

Jan 27, 2011 15:59: Travelin Ann changed "Term asked" from "\"El paisaje caminado\"" to "El paisaje caminado"

Discussion

Christine Walsh Jan 27, 2011:
Thanks, this gives a better idea. But is there a 'protagonist', a traveller for example, or someone who lives ther, or is it all description.
Ernesto Alcala Jimenez (asker) Jan 27, 2011:
Aquí va un poco. Gracias.
¡Oh arisca cadena de montes robustos!
Enebros balsámicos, estepas y pinos;
silos que negrean bajo el encinar,
soleada ardiente que besa el pinar.
Evans (X) Jan 27, 2011:
yes, a hint or two about the poem is vital here Then we could really use our imaginations - "footsteps in the landscape"...
Christine Walsh Jan 27, 2011:
What kind of landscape: countryside, village, town? Did the poet know it as a child, many years ago, as a traveller? We do need more context.
Yvonne Gallagher Jan 27, 2011:
yes, more context please. This brings to my mind the famous Machado poem about the Camino de Santiago "caminante, no hay camino/se hace camino al andar..."
Carol Gullidge Jan 27, 2011:
context Eduardo is right! A literal translation very rarely works best for any literary title. You have to know more about the context, its feel, register, content, etc.
ethais Jan 27, 2011:
Contexto Sería muy útil que incluyeras un extracto del texto poema para ver qué título podría ser. A veces una traducción literal no es la opción más correcta.

Saludos

Proposed translations

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Spanish term (edited): "El paisaje caminado"
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The trodden landscape

trodden is aptly poetic

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The most famous example being: "tread softly for you tread on my dreams..."

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Or just: The trodden land
Note from asker:
Well-trodden should be OK. Thank you.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Andrew Bramhall : Even better the other way round- "The countryside trodden"
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neutral Yvonne Gallagher : trodden has negative connotation. Yeats was asking NOT to tread heavily...//and trample, press...
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It can have negative connotations, yes. However, it also merely means 'walk on'. Here's the Oxford definition: walk in a specified way. ▶(tread on) chiefly Brit. set one's foot down on top of. ▶walk on or along.
agree Rachel Fell : I think it's OK if you say "the well-trodden landscape" - cf. http://www.fanartreview.com/displaystory.jsp?id=225981 http://www.lancashire.gov.uk/environment/countryside/walking...
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Thanks Rachel :)
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Spanish term (edited): "El paisaje caminado"

"The countryside I/We trod/ covered"

??? No sé, pero un montón de opciones siempre que no haga falta ser demasiado literal.
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The intimate landscape / The landscape walked

"intimate" because I understand that the author visited the place at walking pace, when so many other people would have toured it by car
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The explored scenery/landscape

cheers
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the walked landscape

just 'the walked landscape'
I really don't think it is necessary to re-invent a title.
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The landscape I walked

Similar to Vicky's suggestion. Depending on who did the walking it could be I, we, they etc
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The well trodden country path.

Collocations of 'well trodden' and terms other than path are rare. This deviates from the title slightly but from what I understand of the context, it might work!
Example sentence:

The well trodden path will lead you on a beautiful walk through the forest.

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The land (we/I/they) roved

One 'sees' a landscape, but 'experiences' or 'feels' the land. 'Balsámicos' and 'ardientes' suggest the use of other senses as well, not just sight. Is the poet an insider or an outsider in this poem?
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The countryside on foot/A Walker's Paradise

without further context

might add "covered" or "travelled" (Frost's poem, the road less-travelled comes to mind)
the second option, not literal, may work, depending on poem

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having now seen a part of the poem, it strikes me that it seems to be similar in declamatory language (and possibly in structure as well) as an ode

"An ode is typically a lyrical verse written in praise of, or dedicated to someone or something which captures the poet's interest or serves as an inspiration for the ode."

Ode (from the Ancient Greek ὠδή) is a type of lyrical verse. A classic ode is structured in three major parts: the strophe, the antistrophe, and the epode. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ode - Cached - Similar

Hence, I suggest perhaps "Ode to the ----" with the name of the area (Galicia etc) inserted into the space. Is it really important that on foot/walking etc is included or can it be inferred?

ODE

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Reference comments

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Reference:

well-trodden landscape

And, by virtue of the longest riverside walk in Britain (the Thames path is 184 miles long), you can do so with accompanying walkers.

Although the river flows through a tame, well-trodden landscape, once you are in the water, sunk below the pathes, roads and signposts, central England looks wild. You are surrounded by thick green English countryside.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/2009/sep/30/wild-swimming-u...

(different context but anyway:) The new album ranges across a well-trodden landscape of rock to folk to country – seasonally, too, with songs like Summer Of John Wayne to Best Winter – with a full band in evidence.
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/entertainment-in-newcastle/mu...

East Anglia is rightly acknowledged for its rich artistic heritage, stemming back to the days of the Norwich school of painters in the 1800’s. Two hundred years later, beneath the surface of this well-trodden landscape, the astute art collector can discover the presence of a number of art practitioners producing an exciting and diverse range of artworks within this East-Anglian landscape.
http://www.art1821.com/exhibitions.php

Bandit Roads: Into the Lawless Heart of Mexico (Book) by Richard ...
29 May 2009 ... 'Erudite & street-smart... that rare thing: a travel writer who not only amuses & informs but also reappraises a well trodden landscape with ...
www.waterstones.com/waterstonesweb/products/richard.../6297...

The author of the award-winning Break Away tells a cracking tale in this well-trodden landscape. Reece (Oliver Gilbert) is a shady youth who has fled from Portsmouth to Liverpool and befriended Blake (Adam Redmore), a loser with no prospects and a baby on his hands
http://www.whatsonstage.com/reviews/theatre/london/E88312257...
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Thanks for your help
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