Mar 1, 2012 09:50
12 yrs ago
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German term
Oberwerk
German to English
Art/Literary
Music
Organs
Am I correct in thinking that the German terms can be used in English when describing church organs?
I have found some English terms for them but am not 100% sure if these are correct. I would be grateful for the advice of an organ specialist.
Oberwerk - swell
Hauptwerk - great
Rückwerk - ???
Pedalwerk - pedals
I have found some English terms for them but am not 100% sure if these are correct. I would be grateful for the advice of an organ specialist.
Oberwerk - swell
Hauptwerk - great
Rückwerk - ???
Pedalwerk - pedals
Proposed translations
(English)
3 +2 | upper division | David Hollywood |
4 -1 | upper manual | Stephen Sadie |
2 | Swell (division) | Erik Freitag |
Proposed translations
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4 mins
Selected
upper division
ructure on an organ with several manuals
The first organs had only one manual with few keys and accordingly only few pipes. In the late Middle Ages the church organ developed into its present form in Europe - particularly in Germany, Belgium and The Netherlands -, the "Great" organ (or "Hauptwerk") being fixed to the wall and another Rückpositiv (Positive / Choir) organ sitting between the player's back and the balustrade of the gallery. Thus the organ consisted of two divisions each of which was worked by its own keyboard (manual). Then also a keyboard worked by the feet (pedal) was added. As early as in the 16th century even more divisions were added to the organ, e.g. a "Brustwerk" (chest division) or an "Oberwerk" (upper division at the top of the "Great"), each having its own manual. So large organs had three to four manuals, the largest organs today have up to seven manuals.
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Note added at 8 mins (2012-03-01 09:58:57 GMT)
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based on research (no expert knowledge of organs) but this ref convinces me ...
http://www.die-orgelseite.de/funktionsweise_e.htm
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Note added at 10 mins (2012-03-01 10:01:08 GMT)
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and should read "structure" at the top of course
The first organs had only one manual with few keys and accordingly only few pipes. In the late Middle Ages the church organ developed into its present form in Europe - particularly in Germany, Belgium and The Netherlands -, the "Great" organ (or "Hauptwerk") being fixed to the wall and another Rückpositiv (Positive / Choir) organ sitting between the player's back and the balustrade of the gallery. Thus the organ consisted of two divisions each of which was worked by its own keyboard (manual). Then also a keyboard worked by the feet (pedal) was added. As early as in the 16th century even more divisions were added to the organ, e.g. a "Brustwerk" (chest division) or an "Oberwerk" (upper division at the top of the "Great"), each having its own manual. So large organs had three to four manuals, the largest organs today have up to seven manuals.
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Note added at 8 mins (2012-03-01 09:58:57 GMT)
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based on research (no expert knowledge of organs) but this ref convinces me ...
http://www.die-orgelseite.de/funktionsweise_e.htm
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Note added at 10 mins (2012-03-01 10:01:08 GMT)
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and should read "structure" at the top of course
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you!"
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5 mins
upper manual
I am pretty sure the Werke are manuals in your context
Peer comment(s):
disagree |
Erik Freitag
: "Werke" can relate to manuals as well as divisions./Ok. Would you mind quoting the passage where the MGG says that the only possible meaning of "Werk" here is "manual"? Your translation is a possible one, but certainly not the one Lesley's looking for.
9 mins
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try reading Grove's Dictionary or MGG - standard works for musicologists
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11 mins
Swell (division)
See my explanations for your question about "Rückwerk".
I'm not 100% sure whether this works as well if the organ doesn't actually have a swell box, but I think it does.
I'm not 100% sure whether this works as well if the organ doesn't actually have a swell box, but I think it does.
Peer comment(s):
neutral |
Stephen Sadie
: not really, you assume too much without enough context
13 mins
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Well ... er, no?
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neutral |
Horst Huber (X)
: "Swell A box enclosing one division of pipes ... allowing some degree of crescendo and diminuendo" (Bicknell).
2 days 12 hrs
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