English term
comma
Do you think I should write a comma after 1811??
Thanksssss
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DLyons
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NancyLynn
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rephrase
"By early 1811, shortly after the May Revolution began, it was clear ..."?
But I'd prefer
"By early 1811, shortly after the May Revolution began, it had become clear ..."
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Lirka
: with your first proposal;BUT why past perfect in your 2nd proposal? It became clear after the revolution began, so it cannot be before it grammatically. Oder?
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Thanks lirka. Because "it had become clear by early 1811"
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NancyLynn
: you answered as I was typing... we're on the same page!
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Thanks NancyLynn.
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Jack Doughty
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Thanks Jack.
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Lara Barnett
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Thanks Lara.
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Tony M
: I think 'it was clear' is OK, and you could even say 'it became clear'; but your suggestion is also fine, depending on the tense patterns used throughout. BUT do see Nancy's comment about dates, we need to delete 'began'!
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Thanks Tony. Yes, Nancy is right about the "by early 1811".
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axies
: Comma please. I can see a different meaning in the transliteration; it is an after thought! this is not the same thing or the author's intended idea.
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Thanks Manuel. Why not post your answer and expand on the difference you see. I don't quite understand "after thought" so expanding on that would be helpful.
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Peter Skipp
: Definitely rephrase! The sentence is too long. This makes is confusing and easily misinterpreted. "_That_ easy" also injects a register dissonance. "By early 1811, it was clear that implementing the ideals of 25 May 1810 movement would not be very easy."
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Thanks Peter.
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Phong Le
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Thanks Phong Le.
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Raffaella Berry
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Thanks Raffaella.
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Ashutosh Mitra
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Thanks Ashutosh.
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By early 1811,
By early 1811, shortly after the May Revolution, ...
I believe the May revolution was from May 18 to 25, 1810, so "by early 1811", we're not so close to the beginning of that event.
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DLyons
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Tony M
: Ah well in THAT case, one can't really say 'shortly after it began', as it had also ended! So as you have done (but not really explained very much), we need to banish 'began'.
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Sheila Wilson
: In that case, the sentence really does need major rewriting. That isn't what it implies at all!
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Discussion
No good adding to it as one can never be sure of the right answer sometimes. But if I concentrate on the text in the (2) phrase models and if one pronounces them aloud one gets different vibes. In any case here is some Reference enc. re: ''afterthought'', obviously one single word and not two.
afterthought - definition of afterthought by the Free Online Dictionary ...
An idea, response, or explanation that occurs to one after an event or decision.
afterthought [ˈɑːftəˌθɔːt]. n. 1. a comment, reply, etc., that occurs to one after ...
www.thefreedictionary.com/afterthought