Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
por tirios y troyanos
English translation:
from all quarters
Added to glossary by
patinba
Sep 26, 2012 16:12
11 yrs ago
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Spanish term
por tirios y troyanos
Spanish to English
Art/Literary
Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting
Hi everyone,
This is from a text about a prominent Spanish painter:
Antes y después de la guerra, su pintura estuvo siempre alejada de toda ampulosidad retórica, lo que, en principio, tuvo su mérito, porque recordemos que durante la década de 1930, cuando la vanguardia era puesta en cuestión por tirios y troyanos a causa del cada vez más atosigante enfrentamiento ideológico, predominaron lo que ha sido llamado después «los realismos», una etiqueta eufemística donde las haya, porque lo que defendían, en la mayoría de los casos, era un lenguaje de fácil accesibilidad como soporte para la propaganda política de cualquier signo.
Is anyone able to help me with "por tirios y troyanos"?
Many thanks
Jack
This is from a text about a prominent Spanish painter:
Antes y después de la guerra, su pintura estuvo siempre alejada de toda ampulosidad retórica, lo que, en principio, tuvo su mérito, porque recordemos que durante la década de 1930, cuando la vanguardia era puesta en cuestión por tirios y troyanos a causa del cada vez más atosigante enfrentamiento ideológico, predominaron lo que ha sido llamado después «los realismos», una etiqueta eufemística donde las haya, porque lo que defendían, en la mayoría de los casos, era un lenguaje de fácil accesibilidad como soporte para la propaganda política de cualquier signo.
Is anyone able to help me with "por tirios y troyanos"?
Many thanks
Jack
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 +2 | from all quarters |
patinba
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| 4 +1 | from all sides / from all quarters |
Jenni Lukac (X)
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| 4 | opponents |
Isamar
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| 3 +1 | by all and sundry |
Christine Walsh
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| 3 | by all sides |
Lindsay Spratt
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Change log
Oct 10, 2012 11:33: patinba Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
+2
9 mins
Selected
from all quarters
might do here
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
8 mins
opponents
See below for the RAE definition
Reference:
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
philgoddard
: This is correct, but I think it's a bit colourless compared to the Spanish.
3 mins
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Yes....but maybe it will get the ball rolling!
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11 mins
Lindsay Spratt
France
France
Native in English
Specializes in field
France
Por/Sp/Cat/Fr->En, IoLDipTrans, MACantab
Native in: English
Works in: Portuguese to English, Spanish to English, English, and 2 more.
Related KudoZ points
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12
by all sides
A possibility.
+1
1 hr
by all and sundry
In other words, practically anyone.
The expression doesn't in itself imply conflict, but it is idiomatic and well known, and would provide another option.
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Note added at 2 hrs (2012-09-26 18:13:49 GMT)
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Here are a few examples:
This would be even better than her fantasy of standing up at the MAA dinner and denouncing all and sundry.
Smith, Evelyn E MISS MELVILLE REGRETS
Thither I proceeded, to dispense medicines and drugs to all and sundry.
Smout, T.C. & Wood, Sydney SCOTTISH VOICES 1745-1960
Whenever the odds were stacked against them, they used their spirit to pull them through and upset all and sundry on the way.
SUN, NEWS OF THE WORLD (2002)
The expression doesn't in itself imply conflict, but it is idiomatic and well known, and would provide another option.
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Note added at 2 hrs (2012-09-26 18:13:49 GMT)
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Here are a few examples:
This would be even better than her fantasy of standing up at the MAA dinner and denouncing all and sundry.
Smith, Evelyn E MISS MELVILLE REGRETS
Thither I proceeded, to dispense medicines and drugs to all and sundry.
Smout, T.C. & Wood, Sydney SCOTTISH VOICES 1745-1960
Whenever the odds were stacked against them, they used their spirit to pull them through and upset all and sundry on the way.
SUN, NEWS OF THE WORLD (2002)
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Gordon Byron
: Nice one. Here's a ref to "tiro"
2 days 17 hrs
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Many thanks, gb :)
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+1
12 mins
from all sides / from all quarters
One example if you don't want to translate it literally to Tyrians and Trojans:
Desde la publicación en 1960 de Listen Yankee, Mills tuvo que batirse con tirios y troyanos y enfrentar en desigual pelea a los dueños del poder y de los grandes [...] america.cubaminrex.cu
[...] Yankee's publication in 1960, Mills had to struggle against all sides, thrown into an uneven match with the powers that be and the owners of the mass media. america.cubaminrex.cu
The questioning came from all sides/quarters/camps, etc.
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Note added at 21 hrs (2012-09-27 14:01:38 GMT)
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You're very welcome!
Desde la publicación en 1960 de Listen Yankee, Mills tuvo que batirse con tirios y troyanos y enfrentar en desigual pelea a los dueños del poder y de los grandes [...] america.cubaminrex.cu
[...] Yankee's publication in 1960, Mills had to struggle against all sides, thrown into an uneven match with the powers that be and the owners of the mass media. america.cubaminrex.cu
The questioning came from all sides/quarters/camps, etc.
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Note added at 21 hrs (2012-09-27 14:01:38 GMT)
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You're very welcome!
Note from asker:
| I really like "from all quarters". Thanks, Jenni |
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