Dec 25, 2013 08:57
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English term

Access

English to Arabic Other Government / Politics Human rights
This is a human rights guide.

Access is listed among other factors that negatively impact human rights investigation.(denying access to meet leaders of organizations, employees etc)

I want to know the best translation for access as a title.
When access is mentioned in the text it is easier to find a suitable meaning for it. Sadly, the title isn't so.

Any ideas?
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Non-PRO (1): Sadek_A

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Discussion

Sadek_A Dec 25, 2013:
Sure! Of course, it is ultimately up to the asker to decide what to use.

I tend to use a word-for-word as long as it's possible. I try my best to dodge any evitable, unnecessary prolongation.

But, if we are to use more prolonged forms, I wouldn't choose any of the above over the other two. As the added, supplementary word isn't really part of the source text, it's actually arbitrary. And, I can list some other forms, such as حرية الوصول, صلاحية الوصول, رغبة الوصول.

Anyway, I'm sure, or at least hoping, that this discussion will benefit the asker.

Thanks, Noura.
Noura Tawil Dec 25, 2013:
Salamat,
Please re-read my entry. And, no, I haven't given up on my first answer. "Access" appears twice, and a third time when the asker asked about it as a title.
I suggest إمكانية الوصول for the title and the first word, and وصول for the sentence I translated in my note. It's alright to translate the same word in two different ways according to the context and while taking fluency into account.
This is what I have suggested, and I still do. The rest is up to our colleagues and the asker.
Sadek_A Dec 25, 2013:
Salamat w Marhab, Noura. I can see that you already gave up on إمكانية.

If we are to consider just وصول, wasn't our colleague Muhammad Said the first one who suggested it?!

I used وصول only, because I didn't want to offend anyone by stating their complete suggestion.


Please see this suggestion and let me know if it's any better than وصول.

Access
- Access is listed among other factors that negatively impact human rights investigation.(denying access to meet leaders of organizations, employees etc)

الإتاحة
- إن الإتاحة هي واحدة من بين عوامل أخرى تؤثر سلباً على تحقيقات حقوق الإنسان. (عدم إتاحة مقابلة قادة المنظمات، الموظفين، إلخ.)

Noura Tawil Dec 25, 2013:
Salam,
Dear Sadek,
The translation I suggested is for the title "Access", and for the first word in the paragraph.
As translators, tweaking our source to render the correct meaning in the target text is a vital part of our game. We CAN modify the sentence here.
In the middle of the paragraph, we can translate:
"denying access to meet leaders of organizations, employees, etc"
as
".منع الوصول إلى قياديي المنظمات، الموظفين، وسواهم للقائهم"
Sadek_A Dec 25, 2013:
Just a thought! Just saying..... let's apply the suggested word وصول to the source text

(denying access to meet leaders of organizations, employees etc)

هل يصح أن نقول (رفض الوصول للالتقاء بقادة..........)؟

فكرتي هي أن كلمة وصول هي مرادف مقبول لكلمة access، ولكن السؤال هل هي مناسبة للسياق.
فإن لم تكن مناسبة، إذاً كيف نكون قد ساعدنا الزميل السائل؟!

Proposed translations

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إمكانية الوصول

I can't find a better translation in this context. I hope that helps.

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Note added at 4 hrs (2013-12-25 13:11:46 GMT)
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The translation I suggested is for the title "Access", and for the first word in the paragraph.
As translators, tweaking our source to render the correct meaning in the target text is a vital part of our game. We CAN modify the sentence here.
In the middle of the paragraph, we can translate:
"denying access to meet leaders of organizations, employees, etc"
as
".منع الوصول إلى قياديي المنظمات، الموظفين، وسواهم للقائهم"
Peer comment(s):

agree Lotfi Abdolhaleem
15 mins
شكراً جزيلاً
agree Asma Asfour
2 hrs
شكراً جزيلاً :)
agree Saleh Dardeer
4 hrs
شكراً جزيلاً :)
agree Olfat Abdullah
6 hrs
شكراً ألفت
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks for your efforts"
+2
3 mins

حق الوصول

حق الوصول
Peer comment(s):

neutral Noura Tawil : Muhammad; if you read carefully this is not among the human rights, it's an investigation means.
2 mins
agree Asma Asfour
2 hrs
agree RachidAmrani
3 hrs
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4 hrs

القدرة على الوصول

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10 hrs

حق النفاذ

هو حق النفاذ إلى المعلومات أو المعطيات العمومية منها أو الخاصة
http://www.hakaekonline.com/?p=50210
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