Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
roll (call) ground
English answer:
Parade ground
- The asker opted for community grading. The question was closed on 2014-10-05 09:54:08 based on peer agreement (or, if there were too few peer comments, asker preference.)
Oct 1, 2014 18:51
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roll (call) ground
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Military nomenclature
Dear fellow Prozians,
I am translating a book into English, and have had (along with my proofreader) trouble finding a specific military term. The thing is about the place where soldiers in a garrison gather for the morning roll. Usually a square/yard.
My proofreader suggested "parade ground", but to me it's a narrowing. The yard can be used for parades, but not only; it's also used to practice/exercise, for drills etc. (at least in Poland).
I found roll ground/roll-call ground, but in Google graphics I see mostly photos from concentration camps.
Could someone clarify? British English preferred.
Thanks in advance, Rafał.
I am translating a book into English, and have had (along with my proofreader) trouble finding a specific military term. The thing is about the place where soldiers in a garrison gather for the morning roll. Usually a square/yard.
My proofreader suggested "parade ground", but to me it's a narrowing. The yard can be used for parades, but not only; it's also used to practice/exercise, for drills etc. (at least in Poland).
I found roll ground/roll-call ground, but in Google graphics I see mostly photos from concentration camps.
Could someone clarify? British English preferred.
Thanks in advance, Rafał.
Responses
| 4 +7 | Parade ground |
Jack Doughty
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| 4 | Assembly ground |
acetran
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Jack Doughty
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Parade ground
Certainly in British English & the practice of the British armed forces, the term is parade ground, and a parade ground is used not only for parades, but also for exercises and drills.
(I served for 14 years in the Royal Air Force).
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There is no English term "roll-call ground". There is such a term in German: Appellplatz.
(I served for 14 years in the Royal Air Force).
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Note added at 1 hr (2014-10-01 20:20:39 GMT)
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There is no English term "roll-call ground". There is such a term in German: Appellplatz.
Note from asker:
| Thank you very much, SIR! :) In other words - "that "roll-call ground" doesn't make sense, and/or used used for concentration camps only? |
| Thank you very much again, Jack :) |
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Shera Lyn Parpia
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Charles Davis
: Though I have never served in the armed forces (and I was too young for National Service), I am completely sure you're right.
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Catherine Fitzsimons
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Jean-Claude Gouin
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B D Finch
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Alexander Kayumov
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David Moore (X)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you very much again, Jack :)"
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Assembly ground
If you do not like the word parade ground (as you say it narrows down the meaning), you may alternately use the word assembly ground.
A term used in line with the Parade Ground is “holding ground” and by definition is “troops keeping the ground."
A term used in line with the Parade Ground is “holding ground” and by definition is “troops keeping the ground."
Note from asker:
| It's not my "disliking" it, it's my ignorance in this respect ;) I'm certainly inclined to grant Jack the points, but I'll wait the recommended 24 hours. Thank you all the same, Acetran :) |
Discussion
http://www.cem.va.gov/cems/nchp/ftsnelling.asp
2. A 'roll' is a list; a 'roll call' is when the names of the soldiers are called out and the soldiers acknowledge their presence; a roll call in French is 'appel nominal' and 'the morning roll call' is 'l'appel du matin'.
3. A 'parade ground' is not an 'assembly ground'; a parade ground is used not only for parades, but also for exercises, drills, ceremonies, etc.
4. A roll call can be held anywhere but usually on a parade ground.
5. I, also, served in the Armed Forces (Army) as an officer.
6. My vote goes to Jack.
(I served for 14 years in the Royal Air Force).
Roll of honour (liste des militaries tombés au champ d’honneur)
To call the roll: faire l’appel
To call: nommer