Glossary entry

Italian term or phrase:

abbraccio di ferro

English translation:

iron grasp

Added to glossary by Lisa Jane
Aug 13, 2015 12:15
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Italian term

abbraccio di ferro

Italian to English Art/Literary Religion academic paper on theology-Early Christianity
I'm looking for the most natural English way to translate this idea- I came up with IRON GRIP which translates the similar pugno di ferro-any better suggestions or should I just go with this?

il monachesimo «di fatto non è altro che l’istituzione con la quale la Chiesa, nel momento in cui sembrava consegnarsi completamente nelle mani dello stato pagano, riesce nuovamente a strapparsi al suo ferreo abbraccio»

Thanks in advance
Proposed translations (English)
3 iron grasp

Discussion

Lisa Jane (asker) Aug 13, 2015:
thanks to both for dispelling my doubts ;)
philgoddard Aug 13, 2015:
I think grip is fine.
Lisa Jane (asker) Aug 13, 2015:
it is the other way round in this case the Church, at a time of waning poularity, is trying to preserve itself from losing its followers, therefore its power, to the secular state

Anyway, lets stick to grip for the time being:)
James (Jim) Davis Aug 13, 2015:
More a boa constrictor than a bear hug I think. I tend to think of arm wrestling and Pop Eye.
However, the way it is put "strapparsi ... ferreo ..." leaves little doubt, it must be something you cannot normally escape from. When I think of the Irish Scots invading Scotland with a cross in one hand and a sword in the other, I tend to think it was more the other way round though.
Lisa Jane (asker) Aug 13, 2015:
nuance yes, thanks Jim- but a grip is quite strong and more aggressive as opposed to an embrace ...that's the doubt I had.
James (Jim) Davis Aug 13, 2015:
ferreo abbraccio or abbraccio di ferro. I don't know why, but I feel that "iron grip" is fine for "ferreo abbraccio".
Lisa Jane (asker) Aug 13, 2015:
abbraccio di ferro=ferreo abbraccio sorry, the source Italian is FERREO ABBRACCIO

Proposed translations

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iron grasp

...that free enquiry would be the ruin of your Church; and that liberty was to be sought in retiring from her iron grasp.
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Sms_AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA211&lp...

All Protestant Europe shared, too, in the animating hope that the country in which Popery had been fostered... would be emancipated from the iron grasp of the Pontiff.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=LCwEAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA705&lp...
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