Oct 10, 2016 09:47
7 yrs ago
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Spanish term
Norway
susceptible de ulterior contrastación
Spanish to English
Law/Patents
Law (general)
Court report
Hi,
Dealing with a court report from Spanish into British English and the phrase above is causing me some problems.
In the proceedings being reported, the authorities wish to set up a wire tap and in the section where the phrase appears, the legal basis for doing so is being set out. Please see the phrase below in its full sentence for context:
Los datos facilitados por la policía deben tener una objetividad suficiente que los diferencie de la mera intuición o conjetura, debiendo acreditarse una previa y suficiente investigación policial que para avanzar necesite de la intervención telefónica. Es decir, indicios que han de contar con cierto fundamento de investigación identificable y susceptible de ulterior contrastación, que permitan establecer la existencia del delito y de la conexión de las personas investigadas con el mismo, que es lo que le distingue de las " meras hipótesis subjetivas".
Could someone help with this one please? Really not sure about this one.
Many thanks in advance for your help!
Dealing with a court report from Spanish into British English and the phrase above is causing me some problems.
In the proceedings being reported, the authorities wish to set up a wire tap and in the section where the phrase appears, the legal basis for doing so is being set out. Please see the phrase below in its full sentence for context:
Los datos facilitados por la policía deben tener una objetividad suficiente que los diferencie de la mera intuición o conjetura, debiendo acreditarse una previa y suficiente investigación policial que para avanzar necesite de la intervención telefónica. Es decir, indicios que han de contar con cierto fundamento de investigación identificable y susceptible de ulterior contrastación, que permitan establecer la existencia del delito y de la conexión de las personas investigadas con el mismo, que es lo que le distingue de las " meras hipótesis subjetivas".
Could someone help with this one please? Really not sure about this one.
Many thanks in advance for your help!
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 +1 | subject to later/further confirmation/verification |
Margarida Martins Costelha
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| 4 | corroborated / corroboration |
Holly-Anne Whyte
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| 3 | capable of subsequent collation |
Kim Kardasho (X)
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Proposed translations
+1
16 mins
Margarida Martins Costelha
Portugal
Portugal
Native in English
Works in field
Portugal
25 YEARS OF HAPPY CLIENTS
Native in: English (Variant: UK) 
, Portuguese (Variant: European/Portugal)
Works in: Portuguese to English, English to Portuguese, French to English, and 7 more.
Related KudoZ points
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16
Selected
subject to later/further confirmation/verification
suggestion
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Note added at 20 mins (2016-10-10 10:07:41 GMT)
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Or : can be identified and confirmed later
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Note added at 20 mins (2016-10-10 10:07:41 GMT)
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Or : can be identified and confirmed later
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
philgoddard
: Corroboration is fine too, but you were first. http://www.spanishdict.com/translate/contrastar
4 hrs
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Thank you, Phil
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks, Margarida :)"
2 hrs
Holly-Anne Whyte
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
Specializes in field
United Kingdom
Qualified - Development, Human Rights
Native in: English
Works in: French to English, Spanish to English
Related KudoZ points
:
4
corroborated / corroboration
Another alternative to verification which is often used in the context of police investigations.
Example sentence:
The requirement for corroboration was cited in McLean as one of several elements in the criminal justice system that contributed to the overall fairness of the trial procedure.
5 hrs
capable of subsequent collation
I and my lecturers are not sure that this is to do with independent corroboration, rather than with comparing, *checking* and contrasting other wire-tapped evidence gathered.
Care needs to be taken with the UK police term of 'collator' that is also, paradoxically, polic slang for a repeat offender, namely one who has clocked up a series of offences or is known for 'helping police with their enquiries'.
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Note added at 21 hrs (2016-10-11 07:44:22 GMT)
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There seems to be some confusion over the timing and purport of the 3 different processes* See the web ref. question:
Unidad 14
Método hipotético deductivo. Estructura de una teoría científica. *Contrastación, corroboración y confirmación*. Refutación de teorías.
Care needs to be taken with the UK police term of 'collator' that is also, paradoxically, polic slang for a repeat offender, namely one who has clocked up a series of offences or is known for 'helping police with their enquiries'.
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Note added at 21 hrs (2016-10-11 07:44:22 GMT)
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There seems to be some confusion over the timing and purport of the 3 different processes* See the web ref. question:
Unidad 14
Método hipotético deductivo. Estructura de una teoría científica. *Contrastación, corroboración y confirmación*. Refutación de teorías.
Reference:
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish_to_english/architecture/1305204-contrastaci%C3%B3n.html
Discussion
Una hipótesis puede usarse como una propuesta provisional que no se pretende demostrar estrictamente, o puede ser una predicción que debe ser verificada por el método científico. En el primer caso, el nivel de veracidad que se otorga a una hipótesis dependerá de la medida en que los datos empíricos apoyan lo afirmado en la hipótesis. Esto es lo que se conoce como contrastación empírica de la hipótesis o bien proceso de validación de la hipótesis. Este proceso puede realizarse mediante confirmación (para las hipótesis universales) o mediante verificación (para las hipótesis existenciales).
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipótesis_(método_científico)