Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
Ilma. Sra.
English translation:
Mrs./Ms.
- The asker opted for community grading. The question was closed on 2016-10-28 10:54:07 based on peer agreement (or, if there were too few peer comments, asker preference.)
Oct 25, 2016 07:42
7 yrs ago
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Spanish term
Ilma. Sra.
Spanish to English
Law/Patents
Law (general)
Notary
I realise this has been translated elsewhere as Honourable Judge.
Here the person in question is not a judge and the context is a will/testament. I am proofreading a translation where the translator has written "the highly illustrious Mrs. X" but from my research I feel "Mrs." would suffice. Should I change it?
Context:
"Escritura de aprobacion y protocolizacion de operaciones particionales otorgada por la Ilma. Sra. Dona X y su hijo." [apologies for lack of accents]
Thanks
Here the person in question is not a judge and the context is a will/testament. I am proofreading a translation where the translator has written "the highly illustrious Mrs. X" but from my research I feel "Mrs." would suffice. Should I change it?
Context:
"Escritura de aprobacion y protocolizacion de operaciones particionales otorgada por la Ilma. Sra. Dona X y su hijo." [apologies for lack of accents]
Thanks
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +2 | Mrs./Ms. |
Margarida Martins Costelha
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| 3 | The (Most) Esteemed Mrs. |
Kim Kardasho (X)
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| 4 -2 | HIllH Lady X |
Ellen Kraus
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Proposed translations
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24 mins
Margarida Martins Costelha
Portugal
Portugal
Native in English
Works in field
Portugal
25 YEARS OF HAPPY CLIENTS
Native in: English (Variant: UK) 
, Portuguese (Variant: European/Portugal)
Works in: Portuguese to English, English to Portuguese, French to English, and 7 more.
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16
Selected
Mrs./Ms.
http://www.linguee.es/espanol-ingles/search?source=auto&quer...
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Note added at 30 mins (2016-10-25 08:13:26 GMT)
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I wouldn't translate 'Ilma.'
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Note added at 30 mins (2016-10-25 08:13:26 GMT)
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I wouldn't translate 'Ilma.'
Note from asker:
| Thanks for the confirmation |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks"
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50 mins
Ellen Kraus
Austria
Austria
Specializes in field
Austria
more than thirty years of experience
Native in: German
Works in: Greek to German, English to German, Greek to English, and 5 more.
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65
HIllH Lady X
A style of office or honorific is an official or legally recognized title. A style, by tradition or law, precedes a reference to a person who holds a post or political office, and is sometimes used to refer to the office itself. An honorific can also be awarded to an individual in a personal capacity. .... His/Her Illustrious Highness (abbreviation HIllH, oral address Your Illustrious ...
Peer comment(s):
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AllegroTrans
: NO WAY is "HIllH Lady X" a style used in English// where? can you post a reference?
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see Courtesy Titles in the United Kingdom and British honorifics. I would say "Ehre wem Ehre gebührt" After all it`s a Translation from Spanish, If you deprive the lady of her style how will the Engl.reader come to know that she is or was a high ranking ?
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neilmac
: Nay, nay and thrice nay...
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the asker already settled the issue satisfactorily: If we were to translate a letter addressed to the said lady, you would be right, but we only translate some document in which the lady is mentioned: The Abbreviation I suggested will tell anglophone read
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The (Most) Esteemed Mrs.
Any noble or aristocratic title could be added, such as Duchess of Alba and Commander of All Dominions she does survey....
Example sentence:
'This reminded me of you most esteemed Ms Harkness! The Chemical Wedding by John Crowley. '
Peer comment(s):
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AllegroTrans
: If you refer to Ana's excellent ref, you will see that this is not an aristocratic title or a prefix to one and is in fact used to address various types of state, legal and administrative dignatories.
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I never said it was - only to add a noble title if applicable.
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philgoddard
: Have you ever agreed with someone else's answer, Kim?
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You've lost me there... The answer should be judged strictly on its merits. to wit. pls tell us how UK members of 'el Ilustre Colegio de Abogados' de Madrid etc. translate that title in their letter heading.
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Reference comments
3 hrs
Ana Claudia Macoretta
Spain
Spain
Native in Spanish
Specializes in field
Spain
PhD in Linguistics, translator & lawyer
Native in: Italian , Spanish
Works in: English to Spanish, English to Italian, Italian to Spanish, and 9 more.
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Reference:
Tratamientos oficiales: Ilustrísima (Ilma.)
¿Cuándo se usa *Ilustrísima*? Ver página 3 y siguientes para *Ilustrísima Señora*
Documento elaborado por la Universidad de Murcia: http://www.um.es/aulasenior/saavedrafajardo/trabajos/Tratami...
Documento elaborado por la Universidad de Murcia: http://www.um.es/aulasenior/saavedrafajardo/trabajos/Tratami...
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