Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Dutch term or phrase:
deserteurschap
English translation:
the 'Deserter' management style
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Dutch term
deseteurschap
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Occupational Health and Safety - attitudes to
De stijl van leidinggeven heeft hier veel weg van deserteurschap: alles in het werk stellen om de lopende gang van zaken te verstoren.
In this Flemish document, various types of companies with various attitudes to occupational safety are described. The sentence here is being used to describe the outlook of management in the type of company that has a very negative attitude to health and safety. I am having difficulty understanding exactly what the word deserteurschap is trying to express here. Although I am assuming a deserteur is a deserter as in someone who absconds from military service, I can't quite link that up with what it is intended to mean here. Any and all help appreciated.
In this Flemish document, various types of companies with various attitudes to occupational safety are described. The sentence here is being used to describe the outlook of management in the type of company that has a very negative attitude to health and safety. I am having difficulty understanding exactly what the word deserteurschap is trying to express here. Although I am assuming a deserteur is a deserter as in someone who absconds from military service, I can't quite link that up with what it is intended to mean here. Any and all help appreciated.
Proposed translations
(English)
4 +1 | delegative / laissez-faire leadership | Bryan Crumpler |
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Feb 19, 2017 12:37: Textpertise changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/924884">Textpertise's</a> old entry - "deserteurschap"" to ""the \'Deserter\' management style""
Proposed translations
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9 hrs
Dutch term (edited):
deserteurschap
Selected
delegative / laissez-faire leadership
Check with the client/author for a missing "niet" if what comes after the colon is defining the term per se. => "alles in het werk stellen om de lopende gang van zaken [niet] te verstoren."
Otherwise, you'll have to look into alternative meanings for "verstoren" in its transitive sense, like "revive" / "restore" (Middle Dutch derivative).
Ex 1: The leadership style is a bit laissez-faire: bending over backwards to avoid disrupting the status quo.
Ex 2: The approach resembles a delegative leadership style...
Re: your follow-up question, "heeft hier veel weg van" means "resembles" (or, if you want to go 5 for 5: "bears a striking resemblance to").
Cross reference "deserter leadership style"
http://www.publishingindia.com/GetBrochure.aspx?query=UERGQn...
https://www.verywell.com/what-is-laissez-faire-leadership-27...
Otherwise, you'll have to look into alternative meanings for "verstoren" in its transitive sense, like "revive" / "restore" (Middle Dutch derivative).
Ex 1: The leadership style is a bit laissez-faire: bending over backwards to avoid disrupting the status quo.
Ex 2: The approach resembles a delegative leadership style...
Re: your follow-up question, "heeft hier veel weg van" means "resembles" (or, if you want to go 5 for 5: "bears a striking resemblance to").
Cross reference "deserter leadership style"
http://www.publishingindia.com/GetBrochure.aspx?query=UERGQn...
https://www.verywell.com/what-is-laissez-faire-leadership-27...
Note from asker:
Although in the end, I opted for a term supplied by Michael in his reference note, your alternatives have the same meaning. Michael's was chosen because it explains the use of the term and where more can be found out about it. Thanks especially for "bears a striking resemblance to" which you will see I actually used. Very grateful. |
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Michael Beijer
: pretty sure you're right. it should read: "alles in het werk stellen om de lopende gang van zaken [niet] te verstoren."
47 mins
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks to all of you for all your thanks, especially Bryan and Michael. In the end I went with "The management style here bears a striking resemblance to the ‘Deserter’ management style"."
Reference comments
9 hrs
Reference:
refs (based on Bryan's "deserter leadership style")
seems this is a thing. see e.g.:
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"LEADERSHIP STYLES OVERVIEW
Despite the common fundamentals that you can follow to enhance your leadership skills, each individual should also have their own leadership style. This will be dependent on your personality and the situation you are in. Some would describe their style as ‘autocratic’, MBWA ('management by walking about'), 'participative', 'deserter' or 'detached'. These work well in some situations, and we are going to look at how different styles might be appropriate for your organisation. "
(https://www.accipio.com/eleadership/mod/wiki/view.php?id=165... )
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"These four management styles have some similarities to those which may be derived from the Blake’s grid theory:
• Deserter: 1 1
• Missionary: 5.1
• Autocrat: 1.9
• Compromiser: 5.5
[…]
Figure 1.4: Reddin ’s grid — the less effective matrix
In the less effective matrix shown in Figure 1.4, the four styles are: deserter, missionary, autocrat and compromiser.
1. Deserter
These managers often display lack of interest in both task and relationships with people, and are ineffective not only because of their lack of interest but also because of their effect on morale. They may not only desert, but may also hinder the performance of others by withholding information.
2. Missionary
[…]"
(https://www.elearnuk.co.uk/uploads/courses/498.pdf )
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Note added at 9 hrs (2017-02-14 18:39:27 GMT)
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"DESERTER:
LESS EFFECTIVE LEADERSHIP STYLE.
This is essentially a hand-off or laisser-faire approach : avoidance of any involvement or intervention which would upset the status; assuming a neutral attitude toward what is going on during the day; looking the other way to avoid enforcing rules; keeping out of the way of both supervisors and subordinates; avoidance of change and planning. The activities undertaken (or initiated) by managers who use this approach tend to be defensive in nature. People who achieve high scores may be adverse to managerial tasks or may have begun to lose interest in such tasks. This does not necessarily mean they are bad managers; they just try to maintain the status quo and avoid “rocking the boat”."
(https://leadershipchamps.wordpress.com/2008/03/06/knowing-sw... )
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"LEADERSHIP STYLES OVERVIEW
Despite the common fundamentals that you can follow to enhance your leadership skills, each individual should also have their own leadership style. This will be dependent on your personality and the situation you are in. Some would describe their style as ‘autocratic’, MBWA ('management by walking about'), 'participative', 'deserter' or 'detached'. These work well in some situations, and we are going to look at how different styles might be appropriate for your organisation. "
(https://www.accipio.com/eleadership/mod/wiki/view.php?id=165... )
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"These four management styles have some similarities to those which may be derived from the Blake’s grid theory:
• Deserter: 1 1
• Missionary: 5.1
• Autocrat: 1.9
• Compromiser: 5.5
[…]
Figure 1.4: Reddin ’s grid — the less effective matrix
In the less effective matrix shown in Figure 1.4, the four styles are: deserter, missionary, autocrat and compromiser.
1. Deserter
These managers often display lack of interest in both task and relationships with people, and are ineffective not only because of their lack of interest but also because of their effect on morale. They may not only desert, but may also hinder the performance of others by withholding information.
2. Missionary
[…]"
(https://www.elearnuk.co.uk/uploads/courses/498.pdf )
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Note added at 9 hrs (2017-02-14 18:39:27 GMT)
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"DESERTER:
LESS EFFECTIVE LEADERSHIP STYLE.
This is essentially a hand-off or laisser-faire approach : avoidance of any involvement or intervention which would upset the status; assuming a neutral attitude toward what is going on during the day; looking the other way to avoid enforcing rules; keeping out of the way of both supervisors and subordinates; avoidance of change and planning. The activities undertaken (or initiated) by managers who use this approach tend to be defensive in nature. People who achieve high scores may be adverse to managerial tasks or may have begun to lose interest in such tasks. This does not necessarily mean they are bad managers; they just try to maintain the status quo and avoid “rocking the boat”."
(https://leadershipchamps.wordpress.com/2008/03/06/knowing-sw... )
Note from asker:
I found your reference enormously helpful. Thank you! |
Discussion
= alles in het werk stellen om alles op rolletjes te laten verlopen
"alles in het werk stellen om de lopende gang van zaken niet te verstoren."
this would be consistent with the "deserter leadership style"
Deserter leadership style is uninvolved and passive.
This hardly seems to match with 'alles in het werk stellen om de lopende gang van zaken te verstoren'.
on the verge of insurrection,
bordering on a full-scale riot
a veritable coup d'état
Kan het nog erger?
'sabotage' is NOT passive
Disagree 'sabotage' is too strong
Furthermore 'sabotage' is softened by 'bordering on'
Then I would simply go for: bordering on (nice find) sabotage
How many times does 'deserteurschap' occur?
De stijl van leidinggeven heeft hier veel weg van deserteurschap: alles in het werk stellen om de lopende gang van zaken te verstoren.
De stijl van leidinggeven heeft hier veel weg van deserteurschap: niets in het werk stellen om de zaken goed te laten lopen.
As for 'heeft ... veel weg van', agree with Michael's comment. You could also read it as 'doet ... sterk denken aan' and translate accordingly.
FWIW, see also Van Dale:
veel weg hebben van iemand
take a lot after someone
het heeft er veel van weg dat hij het met opzet deed
it looks very much as if he did it on purpose
=
This leadership style is very similar to deserteurschap
This leadership style is not unlike deserteurschap
something like that
De term 'deserteurschap' kan hier echter ook bewust gekozen zijn in de zin van 'weglopen van je verantwoordelijkheden'.