Jan 24, 2018 22:47
6 yrs ago
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English term
France
Transexpertise
Native in: French 
Works in: French to English, English to French, Spanish to French
Wiring
English to French
Tech/Engineering
General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters
Bonjour,
Je traduis le mode d'emploi d'une petite machine (pour une utilisation domestique), et je bloque sur la manière dont traduire "wiring" dans la phrase "Connect the wiring of the LED light with the power cable".
D'ordinaire, je traduirais "wiring" par "câble", "câblage" ou "installation électrique" selon le contexte, sauf qu'ici, la fin de la phrase me bloque pour utiliser ces traductions.
J'hésite à traduire la phrase par "Branchez la lampe LED avec le câble d'alimentation"
Qu'en pensez-vous ?
Merci de votre aide :)
Je traduis le mode d'emploi d'une petite machine (pour une utilisation domestique), et je bloque sur la manière dont traduire "wiring" dans la phrase "Connect the wiring of the LED light with the power cable".
D'ordinaire, je traduirais "wiring" par "câble", "câblage" ou "installation électrique" selon le contexte, sauf qu'ici, la fin de la phrase me bloque pour utiliser ces traductions.
J'hésite à traduire la phrase par "Branchez la lampe LED avec le câble d'alimentation"
Qu'en pensez-vous ?
Merci de votre aide :)
Proposed translations
(French)
Change log
Jan 25, 2018 12:00: writeaway changed "Field" from "Other" to "Tech/Engineering"
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Proposed translations
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HERBET Abel
Native in French
Works in field
Graduate engineer
Native in: French (Variant: Standard-France)
Works in: English to French, French to English
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Raccordez le câblage de....
LED prècâblee prête au raccordement
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Merci"
8 hrs
Marie Crouzeix
France
France
Native in French
Specializes in field
France
Spanish and English to French translator
Native in: French (Variant: Standard-France)
Works in: Spanish to French, French, French to Spanish, and 1 more.
Connectez la LED au câble d'alimentation
Je pense que cela suffit. Si la LED a des fils, il est évident que ce sont eux qu'il faut raccorder au câble d'alimentation.
Peer comment(s):
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GILLES MEUNIER
8 mins
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Tony M
: To start with, it is a whole group of LEDs; but also, this lacks the precision of the original — the LED lamp has a flying lead, which is what must be connected. In technical language, over-simplification is best avoided.
36 mins
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writeaway
: it's for a household item. Simple is best
4 hrs
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Daryo
: there is no reason to presume that there is only one LED + you don't connect directly to the diode(s) but to the wiring leading to the diode
22 hrs
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22 hrs
les fils électriques / le faisceau des fils électriques de la diode électroluminescente (DEL)
doivent être connectés au câble d'alimentation
Peer comment(s):
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Tony M
: Note: it is not just one single diode, and 'faisceau' is a bit over-translated here.
9 hrs
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8 hrs
câble
brancher le câble de la lampe DEL au cordon d'alimentation
Yes, it's now obvious that this is not native-speaker EN, and no special meaning needs to be attributed to 'wiring' here — it just means 'the wires going to'.
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Please note: in order to be able to give a technically accurate answer to this question, it is ESSENTIAL to consult the link provided by Asker in response to my request for more context in the discussion box, which reveals important extra technical information which is essential to avoid over simplification ad absurdum.
Note that, doubtful as the quality of the source text is, it does specifically say 'LED light' — and there's a very good reason for this which must not be ignored by well-intentioned but non-technical contributors !
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The "LED light or lamp" uses multiple LEDs, and although the illustrations are not terribly clear, it would be only technically logical to group all the connections to the LEDs together within the rather large housing — indeed, one would be entitlted to assume that there is any any case a certain amunt of supply circuitry in there too — although likewise, we don't know for sure if the "power cable" is actually a MAINS cable, or if there is some intervening PSU (not shown or mentioned in the text). So I believe this is almost certainly just a single 2-core cable — for engineering reasons, i hope they haven't brought out 2 single wires!
I can see no reason why the writer specifically used the word 'wiring' (though there are other idiosyncrasies in the EN here!), other than perhaps in an attempt to indicate that there was a little more circuitry involved than might be imagined.
Yes, it's now obvious that this is not native-speaker EN, and no special meaning needs to be attributed to 'wiring' here — it just means 'the wires going to'.
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Note added at 1 jour 7 heures (2018-01-26 06:28:12 GMT)
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Please note: in order to be able to give a technically accurate answer to this question, it is ESSENTIAL to consult the link provided by Asker in response to my request for more context in the discussion box, which reveals important extra technical information which is essential to avoid over simplification ad absurdum.
Note that, doubtful as the quality of the source text is, it does specifically say 'LED light' — and there's a very good reason for this which must not be ignored by well-intentioned but non-technical contributors !
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Note added at 1 jour 8 heures (2018-01-26 07:01:51 GMT)
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The "LED light or lamp" uses multiple LEDs, and although the illustrations are not terribly clear, it would be only technically logical to group all the connections to the LEDs together within the rather large housing — indeed, one would be entitlted to assume that there is any any case a certain amunt of supply circuitry in there too — although likewise, we don't know for sure if the "power cable" is actually a MAINS cable, or if there is some intervening PSU (not shown or mentioned in the text). So I believe this is almost certainly just a single 2-core cable — for engineering reasons, i hope they haven't brought out 2 single wires!
I can see no reason why the writer specifically used the word 'wiring' (though there are other idiosyncrasies in the EN here!), other than perhaps in an attempt to indicate that there was a little more circuitry involved than might be imagined.
Peer comment(s):
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GILLES MEUNIER
: déjà on utiliserait l'impératif en fr et 2, on ne dira jamais la lampe DEL en français, voyant ou DEL....
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1° the infinitive is used just as often for this kind of 'instructional imperative' 2° those familiar with the specific product in question will know that this is NOT any kind of 'voyant' or single LED. Your disagree is wholly unjustified!!
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Daryo
22 hrs
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Merci, Daryo !
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5 hrs
Johannes Gleim
40 years Engineer, 20 years translations
Native in: German
Works in: English to German, German to English, French to German, and 6 more.
English term (edited):
wiring (wire)
fil
We do not deal with a wiring system, but with individual wires (cores, tails or strsnds).
Domaine Electronique et électrotechnique, VIE POLITIQUE Commentaire relatif au domaine parameters of transmission media & properties of transmission media
en
Définitiona communication line consisting of a single wire pair at the data station
Terme 2-wire Fiabilité 3 (fiable)
Terme two-wire Fiabilité 3 (fiable)
Réf. du terme DBP Merkblatt; Data Communications Gloss.,03/88 Commentaire relatif au terme applies to the local-loop transmission path from the customer's premises to the central-office switch of a local exchange carrier; REF:Data Communications Gloss.
fr
Définition Voie de telecommunications a une station de donnees, composee de deux fils
Terme deux fils Fiabilité 3 (fiable)
http://iate.europa.eu/SearchByQuery.do?method=searchDetail&l...
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Autre désignations :
Il faut dans un premier temps dénuder les extrémités de chaque fil de chaque morceau de cordon. Dénudez sur 2 à 3 mm, pas plus. Il est parfaitement inutile ...
https://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=https://www.mcmracing.co...
Câble électrique 2 fils pour ruban led mono couleur. Vendu au mètre
Model ACCL00041
Condition Nouveau
Ce câble électrique est spécialement destiné à nos bandes led mono couleurs. Il vous permettra de créer vos propre câblage et de personnaliser votre veste lumineuse Light1.
https://www.lumiwear.fr/fr/accessoires-vetement-lumineux/36-...
Câble électrique flexible H05VVF 3x2,5 mm² Blanc - 25 m
http://www.castorama.fr/store/Cable-electrique-flexible-H05V...
Câble 2 fils pour ruban LED monocouleur
Référence CABLEMONO
Câble 2 fils pour ruban LED 12V monocouleur. Vendu au mètre.
https://www.inovatlantic-led.fr/accessoires-mono/2-cable-2-f...
CORDON 2 FILS - CONNECTEUR FEMELLE / FEMELLE
http://www.centralmedia.fr/pieces-detachees-kits/commutation...
Câble 5 fils pour bandeau led RGBW - 10 m
Référence CABLE5F
État : Nouveau
Câble 5 fils pour bandeau led strip
http://arcenciel-led.fr/accueil/84-cable-5-fils-pour-bandeau...
Connecteur I Profilé LED Aretha
Reference: 2049
Connecteur latéral en forme de «X» spécifique pour «Profilés rubans LED Aretha» qui permet la connexion entre différents profilés avec facilité et sécurité.
https://www.design-led.eu/accessoires-profile-avec-ruban-led...|de)
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A light-emitting diode (LED) is a two-lead semiconductor light source. It is a p–n junction diode that emits light when activated.[5] When a suitable voltage is applied to the leads, electrons are able to recombine with electron holes within the device, releasing energy in the form of photons. This effect is called electroluminescence, and the color of the light (corresponding to the energy of the photon) is determined by the energy band gap of the semiconductor. LEDs are typically small (less than 1 mm²)
:
Parts of a conventional LED.
The flat bottom surfaces of the anvil and post embedded inside the epoxy act as anchors, to prevent the conductors from being forcefully pulled out via mechanical strain or vibration.
:
There are three main categories of miniature single die LEDs:
Low-current
Typically rated for 2 mA at around 2 V (approximately 4 mW consumption)
Standard
20 mA LEDs (ranging from approximately 40 mW to 90 mW) at around:
• 1.9 to 2.1 V for red, orange, yellow, and traditional green
• 3.0 to 3.4 V for pure green and blue
• 2.9 to 4.2 V for violet, pink, purple and white
Ultra-high-output
20 mA at approximately 2 or 4–5 V, designed for viewing in direct sunlight
5 V and 12 V LEDs are ordinary miniature LEDs that incorporate a suitable series resistor for direct connection to a 5 V or 12 V supply.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light-emitting_diode
Domaine Electronique et électrotechnique, VIE POLITIQUE Commentaire relatif au domaine parameters of transmission media & properties of transmission media
en
Définitiona communication line consisting of a single wire pair at the data station
Terme 2-wire Fiabilité 3 (fiable)
Terme two-wire Fiabilité 3 (fiable)
Réf. du terme DBP Merkblatt; Data Communications Gloss.,03/88 Commentaire relatif au terme applies to the local-loop transmission path from the customer's premises to the central-office switch of a local exchange carrier; REF:Data Communications Gloss.
fr
Définition Voie de telecommunications a une station de donnees, composee de deux fils
Terme deux fils Fiabilité 3 (fiable)
http://iate.europa.eu/SearchByQuery.do?method=searchDetail&l...
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Note added at 10 Stunden (2018-01-25 08:54:59 GMT)
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Autre désignations :
Il faut dans un premier temps dénuder les extrémités de chaque fil de chaque morceau de cordon. Dénudez sur 2 à 3 mm, pas plus. Il est parfaitement inutile ...
https://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=https://www.mcmracing.co...
Câble électrique 2 fils pour ruban led mono couleur. Vendu au mètre
Model ACCL00041
Condition Nouveau
Ce câble électrique est spécialement destiné à nos bandes led mono couleurs. Il vous permettra de créer vos propre câblage et de personnaliser votre veste lumineuse Light1.
https://www.lumiwear.fr/fr/accessoires-vetement-lumineux/36-...
Câble électrique flexible H05VVF 3x2,5 mm² Blanc - 25 m
http://www.castorama.fr/store/Cable-electrique-flexible-H05V...
Câble 2 fils pour ruban LED monocouleur
Référence CABLEMONO
Câble 2 fils pour ruban LED 12V monocouleur. Vendu au mètre.
https://www.inovatlantic-led.fr/accessoires-mono/2-cable-2-f...
CORDON 2 FILS - CONNECTEUR FEMELLE / FEMELLE
http://www.centralmedia.fr/pieces-detachees-kits/commutation...
Câble 5 fils pour bandeau led RGBW - 10 m
Référence CABLE5F
État : Nouveau
Câble 5 fils pour bandeau led strip
http://arcenciel-led.fr/accueil/84-cable-5-fils-pour-bandeau...
Connecteur I Profilé LED Aretha
Reference: 2049
Connecteur latéral en forme de «X» spécifique pour «Profilés rubans LED Aretha» qui permet la connexion entre différents profilés avec facilité et sécurité.
https://www.design-led.eu/accessoires-profile-avec-ruban-led...|de)
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Note added at 1 Tag 9 Stunden (2018-01-26 08:32:23 GMT)
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A light-emitting diode (LED) is a two-lead semiconductor light source. It is a p–n junction diode that emits light when activated.[5] When a suitable voltage is applied to the leads, electrons are able to recombine with electron holes within the device, releasing energy in the form of photons. This effect is called electroluminescence, and the color of the light (corresponding to the energy of the photon) is determined by the energy band gap of the semiconductor. LEDs are typically small (less than 1 mm²)
:
Parts of a conventional LED.
The flat bottom surfaces of the anvil and post embedded inside the epoxy act as anchors, to prevent the conductors from being forcefully pulled out via mechanical strain or vibration.
:
There are three main categories of miniature single die LEDs:
Low-current
Typically rated for 2 mA at around 2 V (approximately 4 mW consumption)
Standard
20 mA LEDs (ranging from approximately 40 mW to 90 mW) at around:
• 1.9 to 2.1 V for red, orange, yellow, and traditional green
• 3.0 to 3.4 V for pure green and blue
• 2.9 to 4.2 V for violet, pink, purple and white
Ultra-high-output
20 mA at approximately 2 or 4–5 V, designed for viewing in direct sunlight
5 V and 12 V LEDs are ordinary miniature LEDs that incorporate a suitable series resistor for direct connection to a 5 V or 12 V supply.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light-emitting_diode
Peer comment(s):
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FX Fraipont (X)
: les fils
1 hr
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Merci ! Normally deux fils for plus and minus.
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Tony M
: In the plural, as F-X says — but I don't believe these are individual wires, but rather, a combined 2-core cable.
3 hrs
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it depends on the real execution. The figures are very schematic. It's also unclear, how plus and minus are connected, either by twisting, solderring, crimping or terminals. The only item I can presuppose is, the LED is limited in current.
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Discussion
All is now abundantly clear!
Not sure it it was written by a native or by a non-native, but the sentence seems odd to me...
Here is the product: http://medigrowinnovation.com/wp-content/uploads/products/h6...
The first thing is, it is technically unclear, ambiguous — it may be that from your wider context, you can understand it better than we can.
What sort of "LED light" is this?
Why does it have "wiring"?
Does the "with" mean 'connect it to' or 'connect it using'?
Does this LED light have some kind of fixed cable tail, which then e.g. plugs onto a more substantial mains lead?
If you have enough information to answer these questions, then we might be able to help you better.