Oct 5, 2020 15:36
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Polish term

minister ds. światopogłądu

Polish to English Law/Patents Government / Politics
W rządzie pojawi się minister ds. światopoglądu – donosi "Dziennik Gazeta Prawna". Stanowisko to ma przypaść politykowi z ramienia Solidarnej Polski. Nieoficjalnie mówi się, że nominację otrzyma obecny szef resortu środowiska Michał Woś.
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Andrzej Mierzejewski Oct 6, 2020:
OK, I will remember.
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@Andrzej A hyphenated word is a 'joined' word, so it's counted as a single word.

The word in question can be written as worldview or world-view, but not world view (without the hyphen).
Andrzej Mierzejewski Oct 5, 2020:
Macmillan uses two words: https://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/world... .

If you say "No English speaker would know what "Minister of World View" could possibly refer to.", I can agree that "minister for ideology" is the best option.

@Andrej "Worldview" is written as one word.

In any case, it sounds even odder than "ideology," because what on earth is a "worldview minister"? ;-) That sounds like a mistranslation of "foreign affairs" or "foreign relations." Given the Polish context, and the fact that the party constantly talks about ideology, I think the latter would be more accurate.

By the way, the translation does not necessarily have to be accepted as "official" or "accurate" by the party itself. The intention and purpose of the department is what matters. No English speaker would know what "Minister of World View" could possibly refer to.
Andrzej Mierzejewski Oct 5, 2020:
Przy okazji: minister d/s światopoglądu nie jest oficjalną nazwą tego urzędu, więc wielkie litery są zbędne (rownież w mojej odpowiedzi).

@Andrzej Left-Wing Ideology Minister - You're right; it could be construed as that. However, in the context of an ultra-right-wing party, I think it would be far more probable in people's minds that the department's purpose is to fight against left-wing ideology. The issue is that the original Polish is vague in itself, so being overly specific in the translation is tricky business. One has to look at the intention of the office to aid in the translation.

Minister for Fighting Left-Wing Ideology - True, this translation perhaps wouldn't appear on any official documentation. But for all intents and purposes, this seems to be the department's purpose, and the party has been quite open about its intentions.

Ideology Minister - To me, this would be the most direct translation. It sounds odd in English, but it is a rather absurd concept to begin with.
Andrzej Mierzejewski Oct 5, 2020:
Również wyraz "ideologia" w tym kontekście IMO nie pasuje, ponieważ polscy politycy nie lubią stosowania go w stosunku do samych siebie. ;-)
Andrzej Mierzejewski Oct 5, 2020:
@Michael Left-Wing Ideology Minister - na pewno nie, ponieważ mogłoby być rozumiane jako "minister dp spraw wprowadzania lewicowej ideologii", a intencja rządu na pewno nie jest taka.

Minister for Fighting Left-Wing Ideology - również na pewno nie, ponieważ otwarcie informowałoby o zamiarach i celach tego urzędu.

Proposed translations

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citizens’ affairs and “European identity (issues)” post

W rządzie pojawi się minister ds. światopoglądu – donosi "Dziennik Gazeta Prawna". Stanowisko to ma przypaść politykowi z ramienia Solidarnej Polski. Nieoficjalnie mówi się, że nominację otrzyma obecny szef resortu środowiska Michał Woś.

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Local media in Poland have also reported that Morawiecki will announce the creation of a new post of a minister without portfolio, to be responsible for citizens’ affairs and “European identity” and headed by Michal Wos, 29.

- https://www.reuters.com/article/poland-politics/poland-gover...

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Media reports earlier said the minister without a portfolio to be responsible for citizens' affairs and "European identity" would be Michal Wos, 29, Poland's current environment minister. - https://news.trust.org/item/20200930103644-6z4r7/

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The current environment minister MIchał Woś, a member of “Solidarity Poland” will remain a minister without portfolio in the PM’s chancellery.

It is rumoured that Mr Woś is to be the minister responsible for the government’s response to identity issues such as gender. The minister without portfolio from the Agreement party who has not yet been named will be concerned with government contacts with local authorities. - https://polandin.com/50099515/ruling-party-leader-joins-gove...

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agree mike23
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agree Michael Grabczan-Grabowski : That's a better option, actually. I would put it as minister of citizens' affairs and "European identity".
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Ideology Minister // Left-Wing Ideology Minister // Minister for Fighting Left-Wing Ideology

The purpose of the newly-created department is to fight "left-wing ideology," which seems to have been high on the Polish government's agenda of late. I would translate it as "Ideology Minister" or more specifically "Left-Wing Ideology Minister." Another alternative could be "Minister for Fighting Left-Wing Ideology." See the below sources in English:

https://whbl.com/2020/09/30/poland-government-heads-further-...
https://balkaninsight.com/2020/10/02/democracy-digest-states...

"The other controversial appointment is that of a minister without portfolio, who Morawiecki said would come from Ziobro’s party. Polish media reported this person would be responsible for “citizen issues and European identity” – that is, “fighting left-wing ideology”, according to sources of Dziennik Gazeta Prawna, which first reported this. The likely appointee is Michal Wos, currently the minister of environment, who is known for proposing a law, based on the Russian model, that would force civil society groups to declare any foreign donors."
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Minister of World View

Propozycja dosłowna, na podstawie:

the way that someone sees and understands world events, especially in relation to their religious or political beliefs and ideas.
https://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/world...

Ewentualnie jako jeden wyraz:

worldview
a comprehensive conception or apprehension of the world especially from a specific standpoint.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/worldview


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