Alexander Demyanov Apr 28, 2004:

You don't have to necessarily mention AK. Can you not refer to just "assault rifle"? I am not a weapons specialist but looking at pictures of a field-stripped M-16 I didn't notice to many dramatic differences in major parts.

Non-ProZ.com Apr 28, 2004:

This very strange thing also happened to me a couple of times already - not a big deal, but it might be a good idea to block-copy the entire comment into the buffer before sending it...
On the subject - I fully realize that "wrist-like motions" do not convey the idea. The problem is that some of "eggheads" whose English is not native might might be not familiar with the expression "brest stroke". Besides - the alleged motion is more complex than that anyway - the key is the coupling of separation of two "wings" (or palms) connected through the "body" (or with wrists bound) with the rotation. To make it more complex - these two processes are also coupled with the "palm" (this analogy surely works better here) "grabbing" something (the "fingers" bent somewhat and two "apples" get latched within). Moreover, later in the process a couple of "plums" get stuck between the heels of the palms (near the wrist). The rotation/advance coupling alone, for instance, would be well conveyed by Kalashnikov assault gan gas lock analogy.
[Un]fortunately, this analogy might be strange for most of the western people. So, my thinking was that since there is no precise analogy anyway, perhaps a simplest (though the most remote) one should be used for a short name.
However, you comment, especially the wrestling part of it, is to the point, and I'll certainly keep the kung-fu idea in mind.

By the way, the clarification part was mostly thinking out loud, though to an imaginary audience, which sometimes helps to concentrate, and also intended to satisfy curiosity that might have arisen from the question. I'd surely apreciate further comments/ideas, but am also fully prepared to close the question real soon.

Alexander Demyanov Apr 27, 2004:

This is very strange. I distinctly remember submitting some reasoning on why I actually didn't like "wrist-like motions" (through the "Answer" option), and now it's gone.

mk_lab Apr 27, 2004:

Link "does not work" just because comma included to the end of the link. Simply remove it, and link would be "repaired"

Non-ProZ.com Apr 27, 2004:

Sorry, it really doesn't. The old question is dated Apr 23, and it's easy to find on the list - it looks just like this one. There I felt that some might find it offensive simply because there was a huge description of a non-existant term I wanted to make up. Anyway, I'm brain-dead right now and can't attend to the link till tomorrow late afternoon.

Alexander Demyanov Apr 27, 2004:

The link to the old question doesn't seem to work.

Alexander Demyanov Apr 27, 2004:

Well, good thing it was. I feel personally offended. You have a problem w/my wrists or something?

Non-ProZ.com Apr 27, 2004:

The "may be found offensive" box was checked by a mere mistake - getting tired.