Jul 22, 2022 08:31
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Spanish term

cresta

Spanish to English Social Sciences Mathematics & Statistics
This refers to a point on a U-shaped curve. I do not have access to the graph, unfortunately, but am assuming the U-shape is not inverted as the "crest" is on the left, and the article mentions nowhere that it is an inverted U-shaped curve. I can find no references for crest as part of a U-shaped curve. The context is cultural tourism firms in Peru.

Por otro lado, la ciudad del Cusco debiera consolidar de igual manera la densidad y vinculación de su red de contactos dentro del clúster turístico para que puedan ascender a la cresta derecha de la “U”, constituyéndose como propulsores para la creación de nuevos bienes y servicios.
Proposed translations (English)
1 +1 peak

Discussion

Francois Boye Jul 26, 2022:
The chart I attached shows how a U-shaped curve can peak.
Thomas Walker Jul 26, 2022:
@Francois I understand the geometry and dynamics of waves, but I think it's a big jump to assume they're talking about wave geometry, just because they use the term "cresta." In a typical waveform, there is no "ascender a la cresta derecha de la 'U'" - there is no "U," and this kind of language is not typically used in describing and discussing waveforms.
Thomas Walker Jul 25, 2022:
@Peter I don't understand where this is coming from: "The curve describes the relationship between innovation capability and pioneering orientation." Is this from some deep source of context that you have not shared with the group? It certainly is not present in what you have shared with us, either explicitly or implicitly, as near as I can tell.
peter jackson (asker) Jul 25, 2022:
Sorry I have been away from the computer for the weekend. The curve describes the relationship between innovation capability and pioneering orientation. I still find the term “cresta” in Spanish very odd and can only think it refers to the top of one side of the U.
Thomas Walker Jul 25, 2022:
@Jennifer Pretty much what I said earlier (see below). The more I think about it, the more likely it seems to me..
Jennifer Levey Jul 25, 2022:
For fans of Edward de Bono*: Not having the benefit of sight of the entire ST, I can’t help wondering if perhaps there might be a typo (or a nasty case of finger trouble during a ‘search and replace’ operation) that has substituted cresta for cuesta. cuesta as in cuesta abajo (LHS of the “U”) and cuesta arriba) for the RHS of the “U”).

Lots of business activities have suffered a major economic “U” (= slump) in the past couple of years owing to the impact of Covid-19 – and few more so than tourism.

Is the ST simply suggesting that the authorities in Cusco need to ‘get their act together’ with a view to pulling their tourism out of the slump?

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/spanish-english...
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* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_de_Bono

Francois Boye Jul 24, 2022:
A U-shaped curve is a very precise graph. See below:

https://www.bing.com/search?q=U-shaped curve&form=QBLH&sp=-1...

You can see that not all U-shaped curves have a peak. So, Philgoddard's definition does not necessarily make sense.

There is one case in which a U-shaped can peak: when it is defined in finite intervals, In this case, the end point corresponds to the peak.
Thomas Walker Jul 23, 2022:
Just guessing I'm just guessing here, because we really don't have enough context, but:
Maybe they're referring to tourist activity over the past couple of years - pre-pandemic, activity was high (the left "peak" of the U.) When the pandemic hit, tourist activity fell precipitously, into the valley between the left peak and the right peak. More recently, as we have come to believe that the coronavirus is over, tourist activity is rising again (the right peak of the U).
I don't see any clues in the context provided that we're talking about some kind of sophisticated statistical analysis. A lot of tourists were coming; then they stopped; now they're coming back.
Possible, I guess?
peter jackson (asker) Jul 23, 2022:
@Phil Here is the other time it is used, speaking about the U-shaped realtionship: Por un lado, la ciudad de Arequipa que está caracterizada por realizar actividades integradoras incipientes con otras empresas, muestra un efecto de moderación positiva, posiblemente esto se produce porque el entorno turístico arequipeño aún tiene un bajo nivel de integración entre las empresas encontrándose en la cresta izquierda de la “U” y en el caso del Cusco el efecto es negativo, probablemente se produce porque en esta ciudad la integración y aglomeración (clúster) se encuentra más adelantada comparativamente que Arequipa, aunque no está consolidada y esta relación podría estar en el valle de la “U”
philgoddard Jul 23, 2022:
But does it actually refer specifically to a graph, or is that your assumption? What else does it say about U shapes? And what is the wrong term in Spanish?
peter jackson (asker) Jul 22, 2022:
@Phil Admittedly, it's not very well written but it definitley refers to a statistical analysis. I am also aware that it is clearly the wrong term in Spanish.
philgoddard Jul 22, 2022:
Are you sure there is a graph, and that this is a mathematics and statistics question? Could it just be a metaphor, meaning get back to where they were before and perhaps referring to Covid?

A "U" has two peaks, not one on the left as you mention.

Proposed translations

+1
1 hr

peak

Totally guessing here, but curves usually have peaks and troughs, and "crest" is kind of synonymous with peak.
Example sentence:

In a bell curve, the peak represents the most probable event in the dataset ...

Peer comment(s):

neutral Francois Boye : What's the peak of a U-shaped curve? You provided no explanation.
5 hrs
If you have a better suggestion why not post it then? Not a very helpful comment.
agree philgoddard : The peaks are the start and end points. I feel this would make more sense with more context.
15 hrs
Everything makes sense with more context! I'm just throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks.
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