Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
toute une mythologie du surnaturel
English translation:
pantheon / an entire supernatural mythology
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Lara Barnett
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French term
toute une mythologie du surnaturel
French to English
Art/Literary
Cinema, Film, TV, Drama
Filipine cinema
This is from an article covering a small number of directors of Filipine cinema. Obviously I get the basic gist here, but I would like to find a concise way to say this here.
Une autre particularité du cinéma philippin, tant commercial qu'indépendant, et l'enthousiasme pour toute une mythologie du surnaturel nichée dans les montagnes perdues et les forêts ténébreuses de l'archipel.
Une autre particularité du cinéma philippin, tant commercial qu'indépendant, et l'enthousiasme pour toute une mythologie du surnaturel nichée dans les montagnes perdues et les forêts ténébreuses de l'archipel.
Proposed translations
(English)
Proposed translations
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pantheon
If you weren't going to just say "an entire supernatural mythology" (which I think would be ok anyway?) maybe "a whole pantheon of supernatural entities"
Peer comment(s):
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Daryo
: if they are animist, you could hardly see it as any kind of "pantheon"
2 hrs
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agree |
philgoddard
: Good idea, and I think your other more literal version is fine too.
8 hrs
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agree |
SafeTex
: A dictionary says: "all the gods of a people or religion collectively" so like Phil, I like this suggestion too
14 hrs
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agree |
Yvonne Gallagher
17 hrs
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disagree |
Eliza Hall
: A pantheon is a group of all the gods of XYZ religion. It's not the same thing as a mythology.
18 hrs
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disagree |
Andrew Bramhall
: An extrapolation too far, IMHO;
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
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28 mins
any amount of supernatural mythology
Une autre particularité du cinéma philippin, tant commercial qu'indépendant, et l'enthousiasme pour toute une mythologie du surnaturel nichée dans les montagnes perdues et les forêts ténébreuses de l'archipel
Another peculiarity of Philippine cinema, both commercial and independent, is its relish for any amount of supernatural mythology nestling in the hidden mountains and dusky forests of the Archipelago.
"any amount of" = a totally unrestricted amount, with no upper limit, or ceiling.
Another peculiarity of Philippine cinema, both commercial and independent, is its relish for any amount of supernatural mythology nestling in the hidden mountains and dusky forests of the Archipelago.
"any amount of" = a totally unrestricted amount, with no upper limit, or ceiling.
Peer comment(s):
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Daryo
: as part of the whole proposed sentence, sounds really good!
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Thanks
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agree |
Victoria Britten
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Thanks
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disagree |
Eliza Hall
: "Toute une X" isn't "any amount of X." Any amount can mean anything from near-zero to a ton; "toute une" does't include "near zero" in its meaning.
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Thanks, but if you describe a sportsman, say as " having any amount of skill", you mean he has skill to burn, not that his skill levels are near to zero;same here; it means an abundance/ over-abundance/surfeit!!!
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48 mins
An abundance of supernatural myths
Or a rich mythology of the supernatural
19 mins
well-established mythology, based on the supernatural
Maybe.
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Or "a well known mythology".
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Or if you want to be more literal. "an entire mythology..."
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Accepted mythologies: https://www.cliffsnotes.com/literature/m/mythology/about-myt...
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Or "a traditional mythology, etc."
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Note added at 21 mins (2021-03-07 21:37:05 GMT)
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Or "a well known mythology".
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Note added at 25 mins (2021-03-07 21:41:17 GMT)
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Or if you want to be more literal. "an entire mythology..."
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Note added at 34 mins (2021-03-07 21:50:21 GMT)
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Accepted mythologies: https://www.cliffsnotes.com/literature/m/mythology/about-myt...
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Or "a traditional mythology, etc."
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French term (edited):
.. est l'enthousiasme pour toute une mythologie du surnaturel
... is the keenness / zeal / passion for a whole mythology of the supernatural
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Peer comment(s):
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Eliza Hall
: I agree that the phrase in question is "a whole mythology of the supernatural."
16 hrs
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The whole category of mythology relating to the supernatural
This is my interpretation of what the author intends to convey.
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It probably sounds better to say "the whole mythology relating to the supernatural", as per Daryo's helpful comment.
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It probably sounds better to say "the whole mythology relating to the supernatural", as per Daryo's helpful comment.
Peer comment(s):
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Barbara Cochran, MFA
: I like this interpretation, too.
25 mins
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Thanks, Barbara!
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Daryo
: you don't really need "category", otherwise yes
1 hr
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Good point - thanks, Daryo
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ormiston
: Plus "a" whole mythology as it's unknown. Otherwise agree.
12 hrs
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I think the text refers to an existing mythology; it doesn't say that it's unknown.
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9 hrs
the rich mythical realm
You said you were looking for something concise! I think the "supernaturel" is already understood in the word "mythical".
Discussion
α) [Avec un déterm. indéf.] C'est (en faire) tout(e) un(e) + subst. attribut (p. hyperb., le subst. de caractérisation désignant une chose importante).Véritable. C'est tout un art; c'est tout un programme*. Et sur ce tapis, il a vidé et étalé le contenu de ses poches. Et c'est tout un magasin qu'il couve des yeux avec une sollicitude de ménagère (Barbusse, Feu, 1916, p. 188).Loc. C'est toute une histoire*, tout un roman. Il préparait l'encre et le papier pour répondre. C'est toute une affaire et c'est tellement difficile (Peisson, Parti Liverpool, 1932, p. 39).
I think you use "quite a" in English for this.
Replace "toute une" by "une véritable" in Eliza's examples and I feel you get the same meaning in French.
FR text about J.R.R. Tolkien: "Il fonde toute une mythologie et devient populaire avec 'Bilbo le Hobbit' et 'Le Seigneur des anneaux'." https://www.linternaute.fr/dictionnaire/fr/definition/mythol...
Mais « l'homme moderne qui se sent et se prétend areligieux dispose encore de toute une mythologie camouflée et de nombreux ritualismes dégradés... » Mircea Eliade, Le Sacré et le Profane, Gallimard, 1965, p. 173 (it's "whole mythology" in the English version).