Aug 30, 2015 09:07
8 yrs ago
Spanish term
subrecargo
Spanish to English
Bus/Financial
Internet, e-Commerce
EDI, CFE, new regulations
URUGUAY. I posted this same query 2 years ago but didn't get any conclusive suggestions or answers, so here we go again. This time round, I know the source text is from Uruguay, downloaded directly from the DGI website. The word appears only twice in these online CFE form field headers and descriptions:
Subrecargo – Tipo : Indica si el subrecargo está en $ o %
Subrecargo – Valor : Total de subrecargo otorgado por ítem
Subrecargo – Tipo : Indica si el subrecargo está en $ o %
Subrecargo – Valor : Total de subrecargo otorgado por ítem
Proposed translations
(English)
| 2 | surcharge subtotal |
Helena Chavarria
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| 3 | mark-up |
Antonio Tomás Lessa do Amaral
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| 2 | surcharge sub-item |
Elizabeth Joy Pitt de Morales
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Proposed translations
7 hrs
Helena Chavarria
Spain
Spain
Native in English
Works in field
Spain
Striving for excellence
Native in: English (Variant: British) 
Works in: Spanish to English, Catalan to English
Related KudoZ points
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12
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surcharge subtotal
As I mention in the reference box, 'sub' could possibly mean 'subtotal'. A person sells an item for €10 and applies the corresponding tax. However, if a discount or surcharge is applied to the orginal sale price, then it would affect the invoiced amount. This system could also be used to know the total discount/surcharge.
I appreciate it could be one of my 'ideas de bombero'!
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<TipoRecargo>
www.sii.clSub-recargo-Tipo<TipoRecargo>/factura_elect...
Note that we treat the sale discount as a (negative) merchandise sale. This is to ensure that other surcharges such as taxes are correctly recalculated. For example, if an item costs $50, and there is 10% tax, the invoice will initially total 50.00 + 5.00 = $55.00. With this sale, we add an extra line item to the invoice called "Sale discount" worth -7.50 off the price of the original item. We then calculate sales tax on this new line item, resulting in another surcharge of -7.50 * 10% = -0.75, which is basically the correction to the original $5.00 sales tax.
http://support.exware.com/cgi/page.cgi/3/articles.html/Docum...
D. Información de Descuentos o Recargos. Esta zona se utiliza para especificar descuentos o recargos que afectan al total del documento y que no se requiere
especificar ítem a ítem.
11. Subtotal:
The value of this field determines where the values of subtotals to be captured i.e. in which table and which field.
Controls whether and in which fields condition amounts or subtotals (for example, a customer discount or the cost of a material) are stored.
If the same fields are used to store different condition amounts, the system totals the individual amounts.
These condition amounts or subtotals are used as a starting point for further calculations. You may, for example, want a subtotal of all the discounts included in the pricing of a sales order.
http://wiki.scn.sap.com/wiki/display/ERPLO/16 Fields in Pric...
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Thank you for the info, and the points :)
I appreciate it could be one of my 'ideas de bombero'!
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35 - Sub-recargo-Tipo
<TipoRecargo>
www.sii.clSub-recargo-Tipo<TipoRecargo>/factura_elect...
Note that we treat the sale discount as a (negative) merchandise sale. This is to ensure that other surcharges such as taxes are correctly recalculated. For example, if an item costs $50, and there is 10% tax, the invoice will initially total 50.00 + 5.00 = $55.00. With this sale, we add an extra line item to the invoice called "Sale discount" worth -7.50 off the price of the original item. We then calculate sales tax on this new line item, resulting in another surcharge of -7.50 * 10% = -0.75, which is basically the correction to the original $5.00 sales tax.
http://support.exware.com/cgi/page.cgi/3/articles.html/Docum...
D. Información de Descuentos o Recargos. Esta zona se utiliza para especificar descuentos o recargos que afectan al total del documento y que no se requiere
especificar ítem a ítem.
11. Subtotal:
The value of this field determines where the values of subtotals to be captured i.e. in which table and which field.
Controls whether and in which fields condition amounts or subtotals (for example, a customer discount or the cost of a material) are stored.
If the same fields are used to store different condition amounts, the system totals the individual amounts.
These condition amounts or subtotals are used as a starting point for further calculations. You may, for example, want a subtotal of all the discounts included in the pricing of a sales order.
http://wiki.scn.sap.com/wiki/display/ERPLO/16 Fields in Pric...
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Thank you for the info, and the points :)
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks to all for helping out again!"
33 mins
Antonio Tomás Lessa do Amaral
Works in field
Portuguese translations
Native in: Portuguese (Variants: Brazilian, Mozambican, Angolan, South African, European/Portugal, Cape Verdean) 
Works in: English to Portuguese, Italian to Portuguese, Portuguese to English, and 4 more.
mark-up
in price/costs
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Hey Neil, Thank you for your short reply
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Note added at 2 hrs (2015-08-30 11:55:43 GMT)
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Hey Neil, Thank you for your short reply
Note from asker:
| Can you provide any references or usage examples to illustrate it? |
| I'm trying to find examples of its use in other "official" documents, preferably fo Uruguay. Out of the 16 thousand words in the document, ther are about half a dozen terms I'm not 100% sure about ("remito" is one of them, but I got a rather poor response to that particular query) and I just want to make sure I'm getting them right, as we appear to be setting a precedent with some of the translations. |
9 hrs
Elizabeth Joy Pitt de Morales
Native in English
Works in field
Words That Make Sense
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, English
surcharge sub-item
OK, I don't find any results for "surcharge sub-item" when I google it, but I do find the following at
https://scn.sap.com/thread/1809149:
"We have a requirement to capture the 4 types of surcharges (Eg.,surcharge A or B or C or D) for all customers.We are defining the type of surcharge that is applicable at customer master level for each customer. Pls note that for some customers only one surcharge can applicable or for others it may differ. For example, applicable surcharges for customer code.100 is type A and B, based on the setting maintained in customer master, system should pick the surcharges while creating the order.
I have defined 4 surcharge items as BOM Items for Material code: ABC , and again each surcharge item has their own sub-items.For instance BOM Item A has T,U and V as sub items and BOM Item B has W,X and Y as sun items.
The requirement is once we enter the customer id.100 and material code as ABC at sales order, then system should look for what are the applicable surcharges that are defined in customer master and based on which system should pick the price for BOM Sub Items and also it should apply the below formula to apply the final price in sales order.
Formula:(Total Of Current price of BOM Sub Item in VK11-Total Cost price of BOM Sub Item) / 0.9 * (Net weight of Material code that is entered at sale order * Sale order quantity).
Lets say Total Of Cost price of BOM Sub item (T,U and V) is:100/- and total current price of BOM Sub Items (T,U and V) in VK11 is 120/- , sales oder qty is 10 and Item code netweight is 20 KG.Then as per the above formula system should calculate the final amount :(120-100)/0.9 * (20*10)=4444/-. System should capture the applicable surcharge amount for BOM Items A and B as Rs.4444/- at sales order level.This formula is applicable every time when we create a sale order, if any of four surcharges applicable to customer."
And also:
You can use QuickBooks 2013 to set up and track other charge items. An other charge item is an item that you use to purchase or bill for things such as miscellaneous labor or services; materials that you aren’t tracking as inventory; and special charges, such as for delivery or setup or rush jobs.
To set up an other charge item, display the New Item window, and select Other Charge from the Type drop-down list. When you do, QuickBooks displays the Other Charge version of the New Item window.
To finish setting up your other charge item, give the charge a name or code or abbreviation by using the Item Name/Number box. If the other charge item is a subitem, select the Subitem Of check box and then identify the parent item by using the Subitem Of text box.
I'm basing this suggestion on the info I posted in the Reference section:
"Se utiliza para desglosar el recargo reportado en cada línea de detalle."
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You can use QuickBooks 2013 ...
at
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/how-to-add-an-other-ch...
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In other words, of a global surcharge, surcharge sub-items would be its various components.
https://scn.sap.com/thread/1809149:
"We have a requirement to capture the 4 types of surcharges (Eg.,surcharge A or B or C or D) for all customers.We are defining the type of surcharge that is applicable at customer master level for each customer. Pls note that for some customers only one surcharge can applicable or for others it may differ. For example, applicable surcharges for customer code.100 is type A and B, based on the setting maintained in customer master, system should pick the surcharges while creating the order.
I have defined 4 surcharge items as BOM Items for Material code: ABC , and again each surcharge item has their own sub-items.For instance BOM Item A has T,U and V as sub items and BOM Item B has W,X and Y as sun items.
The requirement is once we enter the customer id.100 and material code as ABC at sales order, then system should look for what are the applicable surcharges that are defined in customer master and based on which system should pick the price for BOM Sub Items and also it should apply the below formula to apply the final price in sales order.
Formula:(Total Of Current price of BOM Sub Item in VK11-Total Cost price of BOM Sub Item) / 0.9 * (Net weight of Material code that is entered at sale order * Sale order quantity).
Lets say Total Of Cost price of BOM Sub item (T,U and V) is:100/- and total current price of BOM Sub Items (T,U and V) in VK11 is 120/- , sales oder qty is 10 and Item code netweight is 20 KG.Then as per the above formula system should calculate the final amount :(120-100)/0.9 * (20*10)=4444/-. System should capture the applicable surcharge amount for BOM Items A and B as Rs.4444/- at sales order level.This formula is applicable every time when we create a sale order, if any of four surcharges applicable to customer."
And also:
You can use QuickBooks 2013 to set up and track other charge items. An other charge item is an item that you use to purchase or bill for things such as miscellaneous labor or services; materials that you aren’t tracking as inventory; and special charges, such as for delivery or setup or rush jobs.
To set up an other charge item, display the New Item window, and select Other Charge from the Type drop-down list. When you do, QuickBooks displays the Other Charge version of the New Item window.
To finish setting up your other charge item, give the charge a name or code or abbreviation by using the Item Name/Number box. If the other charge item is a subitem, select the Subitem Of check box and then identify the parent item by using the Subitem Of text box.
I'm basing this suggestion on the info I posted in the Reference section:
"Se utiliza para desglosar el recargo reportado en cada línea de detalle."
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Note added at 11 hrs (2015-08-30 20:31:00 GMT)
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You can use QuickBooks 2013 ...
at
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/how-to-add-an-other-ch...
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Note added at 11 hrs (2015-08-30 20:32:44 GMT)
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In other words, of a global surcharge, surcharge sub-items would be its various components.
Reference comments
6 hrs
Helena Chavarria
Spain
Spain
Native in English
Works in field
Spain
Striving for excellence
Native in: English (Variant: British)
Works in: Spanish to English, Catalan to English
Related KudoZ points
:
12
Reference:
I can only find it to mean 'overload' (overcharge?)
339 that can overload servers.
340 esto puede subrecargar los servidores
https://searchcode.com/codesearch/view/3517023/
https://oc.wiktionary.org/wiki/subrecargar
https://oc.wiktionary.org/wiki/subre
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<xs:documentation> Tipo de Subdescuento o subrecargo (1-$, 2-%) </xs:documentation>
http://www.efacturauy.com/v_1.33/xsds/DGITypes_v1.20.xsd
It seems to be Sub-Recargo (two words); maybe its something like a Subtotal of surcharges.
339 that can overload servers.
340 esto puede subrecargar los servidores
https://searchcode.com/codesearch/view/3517023/
https://oc.wiktionary.org/wiki/subrecargar
https://oc.wiktionary.org/wiki/subre
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<xs:documentation> Tipo de Subdescuento o subrecargo (1-$, 2-%) </xs:documentation>
http://www.efacturauy.com/v_1.33/xsds/DGITypes_v1.20.xsd
It seems to be Sub-Recargo (two words); maybe its something like a Subtotal of surcharges.
Note from asker:
| Thanks Helena, that's what I'm trying to ascertain. I suspect it may just mean "surcharge", but I was going to that as the translation for "recargo"... The document contains a lot of tables, which means I can't use WF on it and the text boxes keep disappearing changing size, etc. It's taking me forever... |
9 hrs
Elizabeth Joy Pitt de Morales
Native in English
Works in field
Words That Make Sense
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, English
Reference:
Possibly helpful
SubCantidad Esta clase corresponde a un subcantidad de un detalle
SubDscto Esta clase corresponde a un subdescuento de un detalle
SubRecargo Esta clase corresponde a un subrecargo de un detalle
at http://archive-cl.com/page/1149502/2013-01-14/http://www.nic...
then:
Subrecargo
(Este elemento es un nodo Opcional, lo cual significa que puede reportarse o no).
Subrecargo
(Este elemento es un nodo Opcional, lo cual significa que puede reportarse o no). Nodo padre con hasta 5 recurrencias. Se utiliza para desglosar el recargo reportado en cada línea de detalle.
Resulta útil cuando un concepto tiene varios componentes y el monto o porcentaje del recargo es diferente para cada uno de los componentes.
TipoRecargo Elemento utilizado para indicar el tipo de recargo que se esta aplicando.
Estos tipos deben ser convenidos entre la aseguradora y sus proveedores.
GlosaRecargo Elemento que permite describir el subrecargo que se esta aplicando.
It's at https://www.amis.com.mx/.../Addenda_Accidentes_Enfermedades_...
which is all the URL I can get, as it downloads a Word file, but if you google
"Elemento que permite describir el subrecargo que se esta aplicando."
it will give you the document.
Now, as for sub-surcharge:
Here's a tongue-in-cheek example:
How about “user origination sub-surcharge withholding holding” fee??
at http://tvdavis.net/2011/08/16/fees-for-appreciation/
SubDscto Esta clase corresponde a un subdescuento de un detalle
SubRecargo Esta clase corresponde a un subrecargo de un detalle
at http://archive-cl.com/page/1149502/2013-01-14/http://www.nic...
then:
Subrecargo
(Este elemento es un nodo Opcional, lo cual significa que puede reportarse o no).
Subrecargo
(Este elemento es un nodo Opcional, lo cual significa que puede reportarse o no). Nodo padre con hasta 5 recurrencias. Se utiliza para desglosar el recargo reportado en cada línea de detalle.
Resulta útil cuando un concepto tiene varios componentes y el monto o porcentaje del recargo es diferente para cada uno de los componentes.
TipoRecargo Elemento utilizado para indicar el tipo de recargo que se esta aplicando.
Estos tipos deben ser convenidos entre la aseguradora y sus proveedores.
GlosaRecargo Elemento que permite describir el subrecargo que se esta aplicando.
It's at https://www.amis.com.mx/.../Addenda_Accidentes_Enfermedades_...
which is all the URL I can get, as it downloads a Word file, but if you google
"Elemento que permite describir el subrecargo que se esta aplicando."
it will give you the document.
Now, as for sub-surcharge:
Here's a tongue-in-cheek example:
How about “user origination sub-surcharge withholding holding” fee??
at http://tvdavis.net/2011/08/16/fees-for-appreciation/
Note from asker:
| Thanks for the links! I'll wait and see what the client says before making any decisions, as they might/should know more about it... |
Discussion
D.- INFORMACIÓN DE DESCUENTOS O RECARGOS
Pueden ser de 0 hasta 20 líneas. Estos aumentan o disminuyen la base del impuesto.
Estos descuentos o recargos tienen una glosa que especifica el concepto. Por ejemplo un descuento global aplicado a un determinado tipo de producto o un descuento
por pago contado que afecta a todos los ítems.
En caso que se apliquen descuentos o recargos globales y hayan ítems exentos, gravados a distintas tasas o no facturables (indicados en la Zona de Detalle B-C4
“Indicador de Facturación” códigos 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7), deberá haber tantas líneas como conceptos diferentes existan.
http://www.mercadomodelo.net/documents/10157/22170/TEST