резюмироваться

English translation: resonating therein

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Russian term or phrase:резюмироваться
English translation:resonating therein
Entered by: Susan Welsh

18:32 May 7, 2015
Russian to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Psychology / children - Vygotsky
Russian term or phrase: резюмироваться
Leontiev talking about his own doubts about Vygotsky's shift to a second phase of his theory, which emphasized the "sign":

Общение есть обобщение, требует обобщения. Иначе говоря, это сомнение заключалось в том, что мы как бы возвращаемся к схеме: общественное сознание строит индивидуальное сознание. Индивидуальное сознание, в свою очередь, обогащает общественное сознание, **в нем резюмируясь.** Получается замкнутый круг. Классический круг, скажем, французского психологического социологизма. В этом заключалось мое основное возражение.

The usual translations, "to summarize," "to abstract," don't work at all.

Thanks!
Susan Welsh
United States
Local time: 23:40
resonating therein
Explanation:
Or in it. This is not, strictly speaking, Russian. This is what in the old times they used to call otsutstviye partiynoy distsipliny na mestakh. I say use the above on the strength of the rhythm and similar phonics. The meaning is somewhere there too. I really, really don't envy you this job.
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The Misha
Local time: 23:40
Grading comment
Sounds right to me.
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Summary of answers provided
4 +3generalize
Alla_K
3 +2resonating therein
The Misha
4to join together
Elena Va
3 +1recapitulates
Donald Jacobson
3is reproduced
Vaddy Peters
2 -1resuming therein
Irina Kuzminskaya


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9 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
resonating therein


Explanation:
Or in it. This is not, strictly speaking, Russian. This is what in the old times they used to call otsutstviye partiynoy distsipliny na mestakh. I say use the above on the strength of the rhythm and similar phonics. The meaning is somewhere there too. I really, really don't envy you this job.

The Misha
Local time: 23:40
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian
PRO pts in category: 20
Grading comment
Sounds right to me.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Sasha Spencer
2 hrs

agree  LilianNekipelov: 'In it', perhaps.
1 day 13 hrs
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is reproduced


Explanation:
Civic Education (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)
plato.stanford.edu/entries/civic-education/
27 дек. 2007 г. - 2.1 Amy Gutmann: Conscious Social Reproduction; 2.2 William Galston: .... interest of every individual may be a centinel over the public rights. ... (amour propre), which in turn can produce envy, pride, and greed. ..... [S]ocial diversity enriches our lives by expanding our understanding of differing ways of life.

AN INTRODUCTION TO MARX'S THEORY OF ALIENATION
pubs.socialistreviewindex.org.uk/isj79/cox.htm
The new-fangled sources of wealth, by some strange weird spell, are turned into sources ... He explained how, because we act on nature consciously, we build on our ... the process of creating and reproducing their material life, hence also limited ... In Capital Marx described how 'the social relations between individuals in ...

Vaddy Peters
PRO pts in category: 8
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to join together


Explanation:
здесь взяла бы to join together

NB
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to get involved in...))
По принципу: the deeper one gets into smth, the more involved it becomes)))


Elena Va
Russian Federation
Local time: 06:40
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in RussianRussian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  The Misha: Where does it say "join" and how do you propose to work this into the sentence?
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resuming therein


Explanation:
***

Irina Kuzminskaya
United States
Local time: 23:40
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian
PRO pts in category: 6

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  The Misha: Resuming from where? After what? You are simply dragging the bad usage in the original into your translation.
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10 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
generalize


Explanation:
Social consciousness is generalized individual consciousness.

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Social consciousness is summarized and generalized individual consciousness.


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http://www.synonymizer.ru/index.php?sword=������������

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The above link is to synonyms to the word "резюмировать".

Alla_K
Local time: 23:40
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian, Native in UkrainianUkrainian
Notes to answerer
Asker: I already used "generalize" for обобщение two sentences previously. :-(


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  The Misha: That may be so, but it's not what the original says.
4 mins
  -> The original says "резюмируясь" (резюмироваться = обобщаться, see my link to the synonyms to "резюмироваться") And the source text is about generalization of individual consciousness (of many people) into social consciousness.

agree  Irina Kuzminskaya
14 mins
  -> Спасибо, Ирина :)

agree  Rachel Douglas: I think this is on the right track. Look up "individual" and "generalized" in the book Culture, Communication, and Cognition: Vygotskian Perspectives by James V. Wertsch (pages 74 and 92). Google Books has it.
46 mins
  -> Thank you for checking with the Wertsch's book, Rachel.

agree  cyhul
9 hrs
  -> Thank you, colleague!
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
recapitulates


Explanation:
As a first step to unpack this confusion, Egan suggests that we reframe the debate. Rather than debating back and forth between the Platonic program (the “great books”, e.g.) and the “intertwined means and ends” approach of the child-centered, experiential program (a la Rousseau and Dewey), Egan offers a way out – a revamped theory of recapitulation blended with insights of the Russian psychologist Lev Vygotsky. In this way, as we shall see below, recapitulation provides a useful framework for rethinking the goals and methods of education and human development. “Education”, proposes Egan, “…can best be understood as a process in which the individual recapitulates the kinds of understanding developed in the culture’s history (p.73).”
The 21st Century Learning Initiative ~ Review: The Educated Mind
www.21learn.org › archive › review-the-...
To identify what exactly is recapitulated in the developing individual, Egan turns to Vygotsky. Vygotsky's notion is that ...

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The Biologising of Childhood: Developmental Psychology and the ...
https://books.google.com › books
John R. Morss - 1990 - ‎Psychology
Thus the theory of recapitulation reappeared even in the context of highly functionalist ... But the more direct heir to the Biihler approach was the developmentalist to whom we now turn: Lev Vygotsky.

Donald Jacobson
United States
Local time: 22:40
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 100
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks, but from your references, this pertains to a specific theory (ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny) to which Vygotsky did not subscribe, as Morss writes on p. 59.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  LilianNekipelov: Definitely, but it might be too figurative here.
1 day 12 hrs
  -> Thank you, Lilian!
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