from a societal perspective

Russian translation: как издержки для общества

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English term or phrase:from a societal perspective
Russian translation:как издержки для общества
Entered by: Tatiana Karymshakova

13:47 Nov 30, 2017
English to Russian translations [PRO]
Science - Economics
English term or phrase: from a societal perspective
Costs were collected from a societal perspective.
Tatiana Karymshakova
Russian Federation
Local time: 16:06
как издержки для общества
Explanation:
Затраты были подсчитаны как издержки для общества

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Note added at 12 hrs (2017-12-01 01:55:28 GMT)
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Статьи в тему:


Costing and perspective in published cost-effectiveness analysis. - PubMed - NCBI
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19536023

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RESULTS: In practice, there has been a great deal of variation in costing methodology used in published CEAs, though methods have improved somewhat over time. Many CE researchers continue to claim that their studies take a societal perspective, but instead their articles only consider a health care payer perspective.

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Ten arguments for a societal perspective in the economic evaluation of medical innovations | SpringerLink
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10198-009-0173-2

== BEGIN QUOTE ==

Health technology assessment (HTA) is increasingly used to assist decisions about reimbursement and funding of new medical technologies, particularly drugs. This means that the economic evaluation that is part of an HTA will form the core element of an assessment used for guiding decisions on resource allocation. While HTA in general has a societal policy perspective, many HTA and reimbursement agencies advising payers take a narrow budget perspective on the impact on resource use when performing economic evaluations. Examples of such agencies are the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (NICE) in England and Wales, the Canadian Agency for Drugs and Technologies in Health (CADTH) in Canada, the Pharmaceutical Management Agency (Pharmac) in New Zealand, and the reimbursement agency NIHISB in Belgium. A number of initiatives for introducing or promoting the use of use HTA for health care policy making (IQWIG, EUnetHTA) seem uncertain about where to stand on the perspective of economic evaluation. There is also an important discussion about the consequences for pharmaceutical innovation of using cost-effectiveness studies to determine which technologies should qualify for reimbursement [1].

Ignoring important costs and benefits in an economic evaluation will lead to an inefficient allocation of resources, in the short term as well as from a long-term perspective. Cost-effective drugs will not be reimbursed and incentives for innovation will be adversely affected. The role of HTA in establishing a transparent and efficient global market for medical innovations may therefore be questioned.

This paper provide ten arguments for taking a broad societal perspective on value, specifically to include all relevant costs, in HTA studies aimed at informing decisions about resource allocation. The purpose is to advocate that a broad perspective on value is necessary in order for the study to provide the correct incentives for decision makers to take into account, for both static and dynamic efficiency, when making decisions about allocation of resources for improvement of health. For a more in depth discussion, see [2].

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(подчеркивание везде мое)

Как нетрудно заметить, societal perspective в первой статье противопоставляется health care payer perspective, а во второй — budget perspective.
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3с общественной точки зрения
Ellen Kraus
3как издержки для общества
Lazyt3ch
2 +1с позиции общества
didimblog
Summary of reference entries provided
принимая во внимание социальные факторы (положения, состояние, обстоятельства)
Turdimurod Rakhmanov

Discussion entries: 5





  

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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
с общественной точки зрения


Explanation:
deplorable vagueness of the original.

Ellen Kraus
Austria
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56 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
как издержки для общества


Explanation:
Затраты были подсчитаны как издержки для общества

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Note added at 12 hrs (2017-12-01 01:55:28 GMT)
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Статьи в тему:


Costing and perspective in published cost-effectiveness analysis. - PubMed - NCBI
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19536023

== BEGIN QUOTE ==

RESULTS: In practice, there has been a great deal of variation in costing methodology used in published CEAs, though methods have improved somewhat over time. Many CE researchers continue to claim that their studies take a societal perspective, but instead their articles only consider a health care payer perspective.

== END QUOTE ==


Ten arguments for a societal perspective in the economic evaluation of medical innovations | SpringerLink
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10198-009-0173-2

== BEGIN QUOTE ==

Health technology assessment (HTA) is increasingly used to assist decisions about reimbursement and funding of new medical technologies, particularly drugs. This means that the economic evaluation that is part of an HTA will form the core element of an assessment used for guiding decisions on resource allocation. While HTA in general has a societal policy perspective, many HTA and reimbursement agencies advising payers take a narrow budget perspective on the impact on resource use when performing economic evaluations. Examples of such agencies are the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (NICE) in England and Wales, the Canadian Agency for Drugs and Technologies in Health (CADTH) in Canada, the Pharmaceutical Management Agency (Pharmac) in New Zealand, and the reimbursement agency NIHISB in Belgium. A number of initiatives for introducing or promoting the use of use HTA for health care policy making (IQWIG, EUnetHTA) seem uncertain about where to stand on the perspective of economic evaluation. There is also an important discussion about the consequences for pharmaceutical innovation of using cost-effectiveness studies to determine which technologies should qualify for reimbursement [1].

Ignoring important costs and benefits in an economic evaluation will lead to an inefficient allocation of resources, in the short term as well as from a long-term perspective. Cost-effective drugs will not be reimbursed and incentives for innovation will be adversely affected. The role of HTA in establishing a transparent and efficient global market for medical innovations may therefore be questioned.

This paper provide ten arguments for taking a broad societal perspective on value, specifically to include all relevant costs, in HTA studies aimed at informing decisions about resource allocation. The purpose is to advocate that a broad perspective on value is necessary in order for the study to provide the correct incentives for decision makers to take into account, for both static and dynamic efficiency, when making decisions about allocation of resources for improvement of health. For a more in depth discussion, see [2].

== END QUOTE ==

(подчеркивание везде мое)

Как нетрудно заметить, societal perspective в первой статье противопоставляется health care payer perspective, а во второй — budget perspective.

Lazyt3ch
Local time: 13:06
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21 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 peer agreement (net): +1
с позиции общества


Explanation:
"Анализ проводили с позиции системы здравоохранения (учет только прямых медицинских затрат) и с позиции общества в целом (учет прямых медицинских и непрямых затрат)", - journal.niidi.ru/jofin/article/download/241/239

"Perspective in pharmacoeconomics refers to the economic vantage point of a pharmacoeconomic analysis, such as a cost-effectiveness analysis or cost-utility analysis... Five general perspectives are often cited in pharmacoeconomics, including institutional, third party, patient, governmental and societal....", - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perspective_(pharmacoeconomic)


Ещё примеры:

- "...Позиция исследования: точка зрения, с которой происходит оценка затрат и результатов в исследовании... ...определите потенциальные затраты и выгоды. С позиции общества в целом, пациента, учреждения, плательщика, врача могут существенно меняться выводы...", - http://www.myshared.ru/slide/635626/ (П. А.Воробьев. Президент Общества фармакоэкономических исследований RSPOR...)

- "...проведение клинико-экономического анализа с позиции общества или системы здравоохранения", - http://clinvest.ru/news/item/rol-farmakoekonomicheskogo-anal...



Другие всречающиеся варианты:
- общественные расходы - https://cyberleninka.ru/article/n/kliniko-ekonomicheskie-pod...
- экономическая составляющая по отношению к обществу - http://clinical-pharmacy.ru/article/28-tipy-i-metody-provede...

didimblog
Russian Federation
Local time: 12:06
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Native speaker of: Russian
PRO pts in category: 20

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agree  Lazyt3ch
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Reference comments


14 hrs
Reference: принимая во внимание социальные факторы (положения, состояние, обстоятельства)

Reference information:
1. принимая внимания социальные факторы (положения, состояние, обстоятельства, регион проживания пациентов)
или стоимость лечения зависит от этих факторов

2. Второй вариант не очень подходит потому что здесь идет речь стоимости лечения определенных ран/язв:
принимая внимания социальной стоимости, социальной значимости этих "социально значимых заболеваний"
Или с точки зрения социальных факторов


    https://www.google.com/search?q=%D1%84%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%8B+%D0%B2%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%8F%D1%8E%D1%89%D0%B8%D0%B5+%D0%BD%D0%B0+%D1
Turdimurod Rakhmanov
Kyrgyzstan
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in UzbekUzbek, Native in KirghizKirghiz
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
neutral  Lazyt3ch: Не то... didimblog привел полезную ссылку в Дискуссии. Впрочем, я не спец, могу ошибаться.
6 hrs
  -> Да, я тоже не уверен в своем ответе, но как вариант
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