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Rien pour la beauté plastique de ces statues [...]

18:00 Feb 17, 2024

French to Italian translations [PRO] Art/Literary - Architecture

French term or phrase: Rien pour la beauté plastique de ces statues [...] Si tratta di una compilazione parziale di una serie di monografie sulla cattedrale di Chartres scritta nel 1956. L'autore di queste monografie (nato a Cercottes, nella regione di Centre-Val de Loire) è stato il guardiano di lunga data della cattedrale, nel testo immagina di accompagnare il lettore in un tour della cattedrale. In questa parte introduttiva presenta le particolarità artistiche e architettoniche della cattedrale. "Laissez-vous guider par le gardien et, si vous le voulez, contemplons en premier lieu l'incomparable portail royal, exécuté vers le milieu du XIIe siècle. Rien pour la beauté plastique dans ces étonnantes statues et l'on se demande comment des hommes [...] ont pu, dans l'enfance de leur art, faire rayonner des âmes à travers la pierre et faire entrevoir le divin." Non riesco proprio a capire come collocare quel "rien pour". Forse intende che non c'è niente da dire sulla bellezza plastica delle statue perché parlano da sé?

Angela Vigolo Not a translator KudoZ activity Questions: 1 (1 open) Answers: 0 Italy

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3 +1	anche solo per la bellezza plastica ...	Elena Feriani
3	la bellezza plastica di queste statue parla da sé	Ivana Giuliani

Discussion entries: 8

Emmanuella Italy 21:16 Feb 17  L'incomparable portail...Rien que pour la beaute plastique de [ dans] ces étonnantes statues. Je vous l'accorde, le texte n'est pas 'terrible'... Jean-Marie Le Ray France frase strana 20:36 Feb 17  Magari manca un "que" ma anche se fosse, la frase è strana, non me la spiego neanche tanto bene in francese... Emmanuella Italy 19:51 Feb 17  Guarda la cathédrale di Chartres. Il 'portail' è decorato con delle statue.. Anche solo per la bellezza plastica di queste 'sorprendenti 'statue, ( e) viene da chiedersi... Per me non manca niente. Ivana Giuliani Italy 19:36 Feb 17  Visto cosa segue, non si riferisce al portale, ma alla bellezza plastica delle statue. Emmanuella Italy 19:27 Feb 17  Vedi la risposta di Elena. Secondo me, funziona pure senza ' anche'. Dipende da come viene letta la frase. Ivana Giuliani Italy 19:17 Feb 17  Potresti formulare cortesemente un frase completa che rende il "senso" che proponi in italiano? Ivana Giuliani Italy 19:14 Feb 17  Quale sarebbe il senso? Solo per la bellezza... Emmanuella Italy 18:54 Feb 17  Rien que pour la beauté. Solo per la bellezza....ci si chiede. Questo è il senso. Automatic update in 00:

  

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la bellezza plastica di queste statue parla da sé Explanation: Io lo intendo nel tuo stesso modo la bellezza....da sola basta a incantare gli occhi la bellezza...non ha bisogno di oratori -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 56 min (2024-02-17 18:56:26 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- Tutto fa da contorno alla bellezza plastica.... -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 58 min (2024-02-17 18:58:14 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- Visto che qualcuno fa da guida, mi piace "la bellezza plastica...non ha bisogno di oratori"	Ivana Giuliani Italy Local time: 06:49 Native speaker of: Italian PRO pts in category: 11
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anche solo per la bellezza plastica ... Explanation: credo anch'io che manchi un "que". -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 1 hr (2024-02-17 19:23:23 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- per me è da unire con la frase precedente: Contempliamo il portale.... anche solo per la bellezza plastica delle statue. Viene da chiedersi come...	Elena Feriani Italy Local time: 06:49 Native speaker of: Italian PRO pts in category: 19
Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer) agree  Emmanuella 8 mins   -> grazie! neutral  Ivana Giuliani: potrebbe essere, già "anche solo" funziona meglio, ma non ne sono convinta. La bellezza plastica non è un fattore irrilevante, ma di fondamentale importanza, non saprei...non mi convince! 11 mins   -> vale la pena contemplarlo anche solo per la bellezza, senza sapere altro. Così l'ho inteso. Resta il fatto che manca qualcosa per avere senso.
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