Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
above that
English answer:
ABOVE THAT means 'above 2 1/3'
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airmailrpl
Oct 18, 2002 17:25
21 yrs ago
English term
above that
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**** “0” on the x-axis represents normal exposure of an 18-percent gray card in the red, green, and blue layers of this film. A white card is 2 1/3 stops higher than normal exposure, and there are at least 2 ½ stops ABOVE THAT for capturing specular highlight detail.****
Do I understand right, that ABOVE THAT means 'above 2 1/3'. Or 'above the normal exposure'???
Thanks!
Do I understand right, that ABOVE THAT means 'above 2 1/3'. Or 'above the normal exposure'???
Thanks!
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5 +1 | ABOVE THAT means 'above 2 1/3' | airmailrpl |
5 +8 | yes | cheungmo |
4 | au dela de | Arthur Borges |
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ABOVE THAT means 'above 2 1/3'
and there are at least 2 ½ stops ABOVE THAT
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au dela de
= beyond
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18 mins
yes
Eighteen percent gray reflects 18% of the light shining on it. They're used in densitometry as a reference point because they're in the middle of the reflectance range**.
Kodak sells 18% grey cards which have a 90% reflectance white surface on the reverse side (for use in dark light situations when a light meter does not respond to the 18% gray). Photographers simply increase the exposure by two and a half stops to compensate.
Ninety percent reflectance is fives times the reflectance of 18% (18 goes into 90 five times). A "stop", in photography, is a doubling or halving of the exposure. From 18 to 90, the first stop is times two, the second is times four (2*2), and a half-stop to make 5. In your case, they're assuming a reflectance of around 85%.
Reproduced correctly, a white card should reproduce as a detailed white. Beyond "detailed white", there is "bright white" (white with no details visible), at least a full stop beyond "detailed white", and specular white (very very bright white, like the sun). The differences beyond two-and-a-half stops above 90% become so small that, for all intents and purposes, they become the same.
Trust me, I know my photography (20 years in the business including a long stint as chief photolab technician)
**I realise it sounds weird to say that 18% is the midpoint instead of 50%, but 18% gray is the point where transmission and reflection meets in densitometry: they both read as 0.75 whether its a print, a slide, or a negative.
Kodak sells 18% grey cards which have a 90% reflectance white surface on the reverse side (for use in dark light situations when a light meter does not respond to the 18% gray). Photographers simply increase the exposure by two and a half stops to compensate.
Ninety percent reflectance is fives times the reflectance of 18% (18 goes into 90 five times). A "stop", in photography, is a doubling or halving of the exposure. From 18 to 90, the first stop is times two, the second is times four (2*2), and a half-stop to make 5. In your case, they're assuming a reflectance of around 85%.
Reproduced correctly, a white card should reproduce as a detailed white. Beyond "detailed white", there is "bright white" (white with no details visible), at least a full stop beyond "detailed white", and specular white (very very bright white, like the sun). The differences beyond two-and-a-half stops above 90% become so small that, for all intents and purposes, they become the same.
Trust me, I know my photography (20 years in the business including a long stint as chief photolab technician)
**I realise it sounds weird to say that 18% is the midpoint instead of 50%, but 18% gray is the point where transmission and reflection meets in densitometry: they both read as 0.75 whether its a print, a slide, or a negative.
Peer comment(s):
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eldira
: you really know the subject. Thanks to you I learned something more about stops.
22 mins
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agree |
Tony M
: Lovely explanation, Cheungmo!
23 mins
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agree |
Christopher Crockett
: Sounds right to me, who never could master this zone system stuff..
37 mins
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agree |
Refugio
: So, for purposes of simplification, "above 2 1/3"?
1 hr
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Yes but it depends on the film, how its developed, and, in the case of silver halide B&W negs, what type of enlarger.
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Tudor Soiman
1 hr
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agree |
jccantrell
2 hrs
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agree |
NancyLynn
: I love these thorough explanantions from a pro :-)
3 hrs
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neutral |
Bryan Crumpler
: Nice explanation, however... what's the answer to the question. Yes to the 1st option, or yes to the 2nd. I think you lost it somewhere.
6 hrs
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agree |
estenger
1 day 11 hrs
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