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Joke Poster: $0.03 per word for urgent job Téma indítója: ksbtranslation
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When I read a posting that offered an urgent job for $0.03 per word and the so called 'urgent' job will be paid within 30 days from the invoice date, I thought it was a joke.
Do you think they will get someone to do it? I really doubt it. Even an amateur will decline this job.
They should call themselves a 'joke poster' rather than a job poster. IMHO they do not pay respect to our profession.
[Subject edited by staff or moderator 2008-02-24 22:23]
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Samuel Murray 
Hollandia
Local time: 04:15
Tag (2006 óta)
angol - afrikaans
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ksbtranslation wrote:
Even an amateur will decline this job.
An amateur has to decline it, because it is paid work, otherwise he would be a professional.
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Vito Smolej
Németország
Local time: 04:15
Tag (2004 óta)
angol - szlovén
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A WEBOLDALAT LOKALIZÁLÓ FORDÍTÓ | on 3 cents a word | Feb 24, 2008 |
I got a similar offer once from PRC for the EN>SL pair. Think of it:
i) there's a market of 6 (or is it 7?) billion Chinese, looking for something that only less than 2 M Slovenians can offer - the actual number is below 100, including non-mother language speakers.
ii) Rhetorical question: is it a buyer's or is it a seller's market?
The two points intended for any hopeful agencies trying to spread across the European union - "we do all of them languages at 3 cent... See more I got a similar offer once from PRC for the EN>SL pair. Think of it:
i) there's a market of 6 (or is it 7?) billion Chinese, looking for something that only less than 2 M Slovenians can offer - the actual number is below 100, including non-mother language speakers.
ii) Rhetorical question: is it a buyer's or is it a seller's market?
The two points intended for any hopeful agencies trying to spread across the European union - "we do all of them languages at 3 cents (US! har har) a word - plus TRADOS discount (har har har)"
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| Yes, I read a 3 cents per word job posting today | Feb 24, 2008 |
It was in the German-English language pair. Naturally source words were meant. The reasoning behind the rate of 3 cents was explained as being that the short document concerned was part of an order containing a very large batch of documents, so naturally a volume discount would be required.
Astrid
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| Yes, they will | Feb 25, 2008 |
ksbtranslation wrote:
Do you think they will get someone to do it?
I'm afraid they will find someone.
Anni
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ksbtranslation
Indonézia
Local time: 09:15
indonéz - angol
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TÉMAINDÍTÓ | Does an amateur work for free? | Feb 25, 2008 |
Samuel Murray wrote:
An amateur has to decline it, because it is paid work, otherwise he would be a professional.
Are you sure? Do you mean an amateur will be pleased to do any job for free?
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ksbtranslation
Indonézia
Local time: 09:15
indonéz - angol
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TÉMAINDÍTÓ | Yes this is ridiculous | Feb 25, 2008 |
Vito Smolej wrote:
I got a similar offer once from PRC for the EN>SL pair. ....
"we do all of them languages at 3 cents (US! har har) a word - plus TRADOS discount (har har har)"
[Edited at 2008-02-24 22:10]
Yes, this is ridiculous. You should have applied a minimum payment.
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ksbtranslation
Indonézia
Local time: 09:15
indonéz - angol
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TÉMAINDÍTÓ | This is not a part of a large job. That's the difference. | Feb 25, 2008 |
Astrid Elke Johnson wrote:
It was in the German-English language pair. Naturally source words were meant. The reasoning behind the rate of 3 cents was explained as being that the short document concerned was part of an order containing a very large batch of documents, so naturally a volume discount would be required.
Astrid
Dear Astrid,
If this is a part of a large job, we can understand it. Probably some translators will consider taking this job, though they deserve an incentive for doing a small job with a tight deadline (less than 12 hours?), such as shorter payment terms.
But the fact is this is a one-time job of 3k words which will be split for 2 translators. In this case the translators will be paid $45 each within 30 days. This is not fair for them. Don't you think so?
Furthermore this is a Thai job which costs at least $0.05/word in the market.
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Nicole Schnell
Egyesült Államok
Local time: 19:15
angol - német
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Az Ő emlékére: | One of those "translation brokers"? | Feb 25, 2008 |
Last summer I received a phone call from a US "agency" - the guy interviewed me for about 20 minutes regarding my expertise, specialization, credentials and what not. They had a really really big, really really technical high-end project that was supposed to be given to really really top-notch translators only. He was pleased and said the job was mine.
Then he explained their business concept: They take translation jobs from translation agencies, find translators and (imagine that!)... See more Last summer I received a phone call from a US "agency" - the guy interviewed me for about 20 minutes regarding my expertise, specialization, credentials and what not. They had a really really big, really really technical high-end project that was supposed to be given to really really top-notch translators only. He was pleased and said the job was mine.
Then he explained their business concept: They take translation jobs from translation agencies, find translators and (imagine that!) GUARANTEE the payment. Aww, the altruism.
(Note: My clients are called "clients" for a reason. To assume that they don't pay is an insult.)
Then he said:
"Because your payment will be guaranteed we are paying 2 cents per source word. Would you also give a high-volume discount?" ▲ Collapse
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ksbtranslation
Indonézia
Local time: 09:15
indonéz - angol
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TÉMAINDÍTÓ | It's a coincidence | Feb 25, 2008 |
Nicole Schnell wrote:
Last summer I received a phone call from a US "agency" - the guy interviewed me for about 20 minutes regarding my expertise, specialization, credentials and what not. They had a really really big, really really technical high-end project that was supposed to be given to really really top-notch translators only. He was pleased and said the job was mine.
What a coincidence! I also received the same call from a US agency and was interviewed for about 10 min. But they didn't say anything about the proposed rate. They just said that the estimated volume of this job is more than 1.5 million words. Wow! I haven't heard anymore from them since then.
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Nicole Schnell
Egyesült Államok
Local time: 19:15
angol - német
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Az Ő emlékére:
That was the word count the guy was talking about.
This guy was too knowledgeable in terms of translation business, otherwise I would have considered it a prank call.
I hung up anyway.
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gfe
Local time: 04:15
angol - olasz
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| Such things shall happen | Feb 25, 2008 |
There is the 200$ computer, and there is the 2 M$ computer.
There is the 10.000$ car and the 500.000$ car.
There will be 0.01$/word translations and 0.2$/word translation. And not in a remote future.
For every Ferrari that is sold, thousands of little boxes with wheels are sold. Care to add up total sales for each segment?
The name of the game, for us, is productivity (like riding the MT wave) and taking advantage of lowering expectations. How often do you r... See more There is the 200$ computer, and there is the 2 M$ computer.
There is the 10.000$ car and the 500.000$ car.
There will be 0.01$/word translations and 0.2$/word translation. And not in a remote future.
For every Ferrari that is sold, thousands of little boxes with wheels are sold. Care to add up total sales for each segment?
The name of the game, for us, is productivity (like riding the MT wave) and taking advantage of lowering expectations. How often do you read the user manuals of things you buy? I do. No quality control stopped them. Food for thought, no?
"Poisoning of springs", no. Giving customers what they think they need (and arguably they know better than I, their translator) yes. Let's try to turn to our advantage what will happen anyway.
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| People want to be tricked... | Feb 25, 2008 |
And other people want to trick you and cheat you if they can. That's how the world is. Ignore them and spend time only on the serious clients. Why are people always so surprised and preoccupied with this subject? Some clients are cheap... get over it.
 Jørgen
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Tim Drayton
Ciprus
Local time: 05:15
török - angol
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Do we really need a discussion here every time someody posts a job at a low rate? If you don't like the rate, don't apply. This is a free market.
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Samuel Murray
Hollandia
Local time: 04:15
Tag (2006 óta)
angol - afrikaans
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ksbtranslation wrote: Samuel Murray wrote:
An amateur has to decline it, because it is paid work, otherwise he would be a professional. Are you sure? Do you mean an amateur will be pleased to do any job for free?
An amateur by definition is someone who does it for free. But I'm also poking fun at you (and at these threads that recur) -- the word "amateur" is also used to indicate someone who is unskilled.
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