la madre que los parió

English translation: or whoever the fuck

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Spanish term or phrase:la madre que los parió
English translation:or whoever the fuck
Entered by: NegraVera

01:52 Aug 11, 2011
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Poetry & Literature / Narrativa
Spanish term or phrase: la madre que los parió
Me pueden ayudar con esta frase? Aquí está el contexto:
...y estoy convencido de que si el autor el fulano o mengano o la madre que los parió, aquello no cambia el sentido mismo de la novela.
Gracias anticipadas!
NegraVera
Ecuador
Local time: 23:51
or whoever the fuck
Explanation:
one possibility among many that conserves the language register

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Note added at 3 hrs (2011-08-11 05:00:07 GMT)
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another possible solution:

'...or their damn mother...'
Selected response from:

JH Trads
United States
Local time: 00:51
Grading comment
This answer keeps the register of the original phrase.
3 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
3 +5whoever the heck it is
Michael Powers (PhD)
4 +3or whoever the fuck
JH Trads
4 +1Tom, Dick, or Harry (for the entire list)*
Jenni Lukac (X)
4 +1...or whatever the hell his name is
eski
4nondescript
esing (X)


Discussion entries: 1





  

Answers


4 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +5
whoever the heck it is


Explanation:
I believe it is being used in a figurative sense in this context

... the author or so and so or such and such or whoever the heck it is

I believe something along these lines is called for.

Mike
Mike

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Note added at 5 mins (2011-08-11 01:58:26 GMT)
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Or, possibly, whoever the hell it is

Michael Powers (PhD)
United States
Local time: 00:51
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 143
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks, Mike! As David states, the text needs something stronger, but your answer is very helpful.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  David Hollywood: a wee bit watered down Mike lol but that's the meaning :) so let's see how it goes :)
2 mins
  -> Thank you, David - yes, I believe it should at least be "whoever the hell it is" and not "heck" - Mike

agree  George Rabel: Agree with David: Hell is the one. Fuck is too strong and Heck is too soft
46 mins
  -> Thank you, George - Mike

agree  franglish: whoever the hell, yes
4 hrs
  -> Thank you, franglish - Mike

agree  Antoni Morey i Pasqual: definitely whoever the hell
5 hrs
  -> Thank you, Antoni - Mike

agree  Peter Collins: I would also go with whoever the hell also, but a lot depends on the wider context. If the rest of the text uses strong language then I wouldn't hesitate for a moment to use 'who the fuck'.
7 hrs
  -> Thank you, Peter - Mike
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
nondescript


Explanation:
nondescript agrees with equivalent of fulano and mengano.

esing (X)
India
Local time: 10:21
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in TamilTamil
PRO pts in category: 4
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2 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
or whoever the fuck


Explanation:
one possibility among many that conserves the language register

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Note added at 3 hrs (2011-08-11 05:00:07 GMT)
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another possible solution:

'...or their damn mother...'

JH Trads
United States
Local time: 00:51
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 10
Grading comment
This answer keeps the register of the original phrase.
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you, Hugo!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  David Hollywood: this is the right register and spot on IMO :)
4 mins
  -> Thanks David, conserving the language level is key, no matter how much we may dislike an expression :)

agree  Altogringo: This is what I would say, but whoever the hell (as per George below) is a strong enough alternative for broader use
2 hrs
  -> thanks !

agree  Ana Gutierrez: yes, 'la madre que te pario" is strong language, so it warrants this.
7 hrs
  -> thanks Ana !
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6 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Tom, Dick, or Harry (for the entire list)*


Explanation:
Tom Dick, or Harry is the classic phrase. *One of the problems here is achieving a correct sentence structure in English. Some possibilities: I'm convinced that if any other writer had written the novel, its meaning would have remained essentially the same. Or: I'm convinced that if any other Tom, Dick, or Harry had written the novel, its meaning would not be essentially different. Or a more freely translated solution: I'm convinced that the meaning of the novel would have been essentially the same, regardless of who wrote it/ regardless of who the author might have been.

Jenni Lukac (X)
Local time: 06:51
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 156
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you, Jenny.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  FVS (X): Yes, I think the register is really very mild here. Hecks and fucks don't really do it.
57 mins
  -> THanks, FVS. At least here in Spain, the phrase is used by everyone and is not considered to be extreme language.
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12 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
...or whatever the hell his name is


Explanation:
Perhaps a little sronger tone is necessary (without necessarily going overboard) :

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Note added at 12 hrs (2011-08-11 14:48:36 GMT)
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ot Kirk Hammit, or whatever the hell his name is. | Facebook
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Saludos
eski :))

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Note added at 19 hrs (2011-08-11 20:58:55 GMT)
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Hola NegraVera;
Always glad to help.
eski :))

eski
Mexico
Local time: 22:51
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 20
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you, eski.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  claudia16 (X): this is used as an insult on its own so yes this sound right
2 hrs
  -> Thanks & also for your comment: Saludos, claudia16. eski :))
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