no les comprenden las generales de derecho

16:07 May 9, 2023
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Law (general) / marriage in catholic church
Spanish term or phrase: no les comprenden las generales de derecho
the excerpt below is taken from a Informacion Matrimonial record made by a priest in the country of Panama in 1909:

Como testigos presentaron á Evaristo Moreno y Braulio Correa, mayores de edad, católicos y vecinos de esta parroquia; quienes bajo la gravedad del juramento, declararon: que conocen á los pretendientes de vista, trato y comunicación; que jura con ellos no les comprenden las generales de derecho, que son católicos, solteros y que no tienen impedimento alguno. Lo mismo consta de la exposición reservada de los pretendientes.
Mary Howell


Summary of answers provided
5 +1they are not precluded/disbarred under the general statutory provisions
AllegroTrans
5they are not included by the general provisions of the law
Claudia Del Blanco
Summary of reference entries provided
general principles and provisions
Lisa Rosengard

  

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they are not included by the general provisions of the law


Explanation:
To be included in the sense of being included among the persons mentioned in the law as being prevented from testifying, being a party to trials, a witness, etc.
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La circunstancia de que el testigo se encuentre comprendido en las generales de la ley no excluye en modo alguno el valor del testimonio pues se expresa que las preliminares de la ley no constituyen una tacha de los dichos del deponente, sino un elemento de juicio más para la evaluación judicial de su eficacia probatoria.


    https://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish-to-english/law-general/2483327-le-compren-las-generales-que-la-ley-determina.html#:~:text=Estar%20compren
    Reference: http://www.saij.gob.ar/prueba-testimonial-testigos-generales...
Claudia Del Blanco
Argentina
Local time: 11:20
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Native speaker of: Spanish

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neutral  AllegroTrans: Your explanation is correct but your wording is confusing
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they are not precluded/disbarred under the general statutory provisions


Explanation:
We would not say "included" in English as this is certifying that these persons (the witnesses) are not precluded or disbarred from being witnesses to a marriage, etc.

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Note added at 6 hrs (2023-05-09 22:09:23 GMT)
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To merely say they are "included" (without doubling the length of the sentence) would be misleading.

AllegroTrans
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Reference comments


6 hrs peer agreement (net): -1
Reference: general principles and provisions

Reference information:
"Legal provisions are usually included in a contract or other type of legal agreement to protect the interests of the parties involved."

https://www.lawdistrict.com/legal-dictionary/provision

(general civil code of acceptance among citizens)

I note that from a Spanish reference below, 'general legal codes' in a tribunal are a set of questions which a witness must answer.

"Los principios generales del derecho son un grupo de afirmaciones que se consideran racionalmente verdaderas y éticamente justas, y que sirven de fundamento al sistema jurídico de un Estado."
https://www.lifeder.com/principios-generales-derecho/

"Generales de la ley son preguntas que el tribunal formula al testigo con carácter previo a su declaración, referidas a cuestiones relativas a su identidad, parentesco, relación o dependencias con las partes, la defensa o representación procesal ..."
https://dpej.rae.es/lema/generales-de-la-ley


    https://www.lifeder.com/principios-generales-derecho/
    https://dpej.rae.es/lema/generales-de-la-ley
Lisa Rosengard
United Kingdom
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 36

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disagree  AllegroTrans: None of the asker's text is about contracts or legal agreements
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