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deportation

German translation: Verschleppung

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English term or phrase:deportation
German translation:Verschleppung
Entered by: wolfheart

19:38 Oct 14, 2005
English to German translations [PRO]
Science - Zoology
English term or phrase: deportation
Why Is The Persian Fallow Deer in Danger? Originally it was found in Iran, Turkey, Egypt and other countries. But the increase in desert land, **deportation** and hunting (illegal or not) was killing it off. The Persian Fallow Deer was introduced into England through an initiative by the British Museum died. In 1951, the species was declared extinct.
Alexandra Becker
Germany
Local time: 08:09
Verschleppung
Explanation:
Verschleppung (im negativen Fall) was hier ja der Fall zu sein scheint
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wolfheart
United States
Local time: 02:09
Grading comment
Vielen Dank!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +1Verschleppung
wolfheart
4in support of "Umsiedlungen"
Dirgis (X)
4Verbringung
Sabine Wulf
3Export
Ingo Dierkschnieder
3Verjagen / Vertreibung
Nicole Schnell
3Umsiedlung
Ulrike Judkins


  

Answers


8 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
Export


Explanation:
Bin mir aber nicht sicher, ob man hier von exportierten Tieren reden kann, gemeint ist aber meiner Meinung nach, dass die Tiere außer Landes gebracht wurden, z. B. für Zoos.

Ingo Dierkschnieder
United Kingdom
Local time: 07:09
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 12
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10 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Verschleppung


Explanation:
Verschleppung (im negativen Fall) was hier ja der Fall zu sein scheint


wolfheart
United States
Local time: 02:09
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Vielen Dank!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Carla Schaudt: Scheint hier tatsächlich der Fall zu sein. Als einer der Gründe für das Aussterben. Die Tiere werden (in diesem Fall) de facto verschleppt und nicht irgendwohin umgesiedelt, wo sie's nett haben und sich fortpflanzen können.
11 hrs
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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
Verjagen / Vertreibung


Explanation:
Suggestion.

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Note added at 16 mins (2005-10-14 19:55:00 GMT)
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I forgot: Langenscheidt's

Nicole Schnell
United States
Local time: 23:09
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Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 32
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
Umsiedlung


Explanation:
ein weiterer Vorschlag

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Note added at 1 hr 21 mins (2005-10-14 20:59:26 GMT)
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Umsiedlung: In 1955 the Baron von Opel (the renowned car manufacturer, who also happened to be an amateur zoologist) discovered a small herd of Persian fallow deer taking refuge in the vicinity of the Dez River in western Iran. Von Opel acquired a number of deer for the Opel Park Zoo in Kronberg, Germany, and began breeding
the animals.
http://www.jerusalemzoo.org.il/english/upload/month/fallowde...

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Note added at 1 hr 26 mins (2005-10-14 21:04:32 GMT)
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als Rettungsmassnahme?
http://sea.unep-wcmc.org/sites/pa/1656v.htm

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Note added at 15 hrs 41 mins (2005-10-15 11:20:20 GMT)
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Zwangsumsiedlungen?!

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Note added at 15 hrs 53 mins (2005-10-15 11:31:49 GMT)
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vielleicht spezifischer: Zwangsumsiedlungen von ganzen Herden/mehreren Tieren

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Note added at 16 hrs 45 mins (2005-10-15 12:23:51 GMT)
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Umsiedlung/en (und auch mehrere der anderen Vorschlaege) scheinen eher auf Menschen zu treffen,
wie waere es mit "Einfangen ganzer Herden" (fuer Zoos/Zuchtprogramme)

Ulrike Judkins
Local time: 01:09
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  wolfheart: Umsiedlung ist eine Massnahme zur Rettung von Tieren, hier geht es offensichtlich um Wilddiebe oder andere praktisch kriminelle Eingriffe
2 hrs
  -> "the increase in desert land" is a criminal act as well?
agree  Dirgis (X): Except that it should be a plural, since there were several instances
7 hrs
  -> yes, agree (and that explains your separate answer?)
neutral  Carla Schaudt: Finde auch, dass im Deutschen Umsiedlung zu positiv bzw. euphemistisch klingt. Schließlich ist im Text die Rede davon, dass u.a. die "deportation" dazu führte, dass die Gattung vom Aussterben bedroht war.
10 hrs
  -> wahrscheinlich nicht nur das, es scheint auch irgendwie nicht auf Tiere zu passen: wie waere es mit "Einfangen ganzer Herden"
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8 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
in support of "Umsiedlungen"


Explanation:
"Remarks

Significantly larger than its European cousin, the status of the Persian fallow deer as a species is still somewhat uncertain, with experts still arguing over whether it is a subspecies of Dama dama - as it has been designated in the past - or a unique species in its own right. The history of this deer is a made of numerous "extinct" phases, each followed by a surprising rediscovery. After enjoying widespread familiarity in ancient times (the Persian fallow deer is depicted in artwork from before the 9th Century BCE), this deer "disappeared" - or rather was forgotten - until 1875 when Robertson, an English Vice Consul, found a new species in southern Persia, and submitted his discovery to the British Museum in London. After being classified as a distinct species, several animals were sent to the London Zoo, where they successfully reproduced and were subsequently sent to the Duke of Bedford's imfamous Woburn Abbey, where they survived until the beginning of the century. In 1951, due to a lack of reports on this species for several decades, the Persian fallow deer was considered extinct. Until 1955, that is, when American researcher Lee Merriam Talbot, on a trip to Iran, heard of a population of deer which he suspected to be Persian fallow deer. He reported his findings to German zoologist Werner Trense, who, following rumours, discovered a population of two dozen deer in an isolated jungle in 1957. Threatened by human encroachment and environmental conditions, it was decided to capture a few of the deer in order to start a captive breeding program. After a several captures followed by successful captive breeding, several deer were released in 1997 in a reserve in Israel, where the population now numbers around 30. Cautious estimates place the world population of this rare deer at 250 animals."
Apparently, these "deportations" were done for conservation reasons, so Umsiedlungen should be the term IMO


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Note added at 19 hrs 31 mins (2005-10-15 15:09:49 GMT)
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Let me just state here, for all to know, I did not post this separate answer to take the point from Melusine, but rather since I saw no other way to get this long quote onto the site. I thought: "In support of Umsiedlungen" implied that, but I guess that did not come across.
I hope we can let it rest at that and get back to work, fun, or whatever we were doing.
So please, asker DO NOT GIVE ME THE POINTS. I don't want them. Thanks


    Reference: http://www.ultimateungulate.com/Artiodactyla/Dama_mesopotami...
Dirgis (X)
United States
Local time: 02:09
Works in field
Native speaker of: German
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Ulrike Judkins: Support?
7 hrs
  -> Yes, this is to say that I think you should get the credit. I am not trying to compete with you for credit. How else could I have gotten that long paragraph in here?
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1 day 11 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
Verbringung


Explanation:
Hätten wir Deutsche nicht diese abscheuliche Vorgeschichte, könnte man Deportation wählen; würde hier aber das geschichtsneutralere "Verbringung" (an einen anderen Ort) vorziehen.

Gruß, Sabine

(1) Wer die Jagd ausübt, hat dabei die berechtigten Interessen der ... die Anwendung
von Ursprungszeichen bei der Verbringung von erlegtem Schalenwild dem ...
www.forst-hamburg.de/bundesjagdgesetz/06-09.htm - 21k -

... Für die Verbringung von Pferden nach Großbritannien gibt es zurzeit keine ... Hierbei
muss man zwischen der Jagd mit Schusswaffen einerseits und der Hetzjagd (zu ...
www.britischebotschaft.de/ de/embassy/agriculture/fmd-travel.htm

Sabine Wulf
Germany
Local time: 08:09
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 3
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