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politics as usual (unicode utf-8 encoded)

Japanese translation: �従来型（の）政治

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English term or phrase:politics as usual (unicode utf-8 encoded)
Japanese translation:�従来型（の）政治
Entered by: Roddy Stegemann

12:23 Aug 31, 2004
English to Japanese translations [PRO]
Idioms / Maxims / Sayings / 政治的な人々関係と状態
English term or phrase: politics as usual (unicode utf-8 encoded)
この表現の意味は、色々がありますが、クドズグロッスの中に一度も見付かりません。簡単な意味は、通常の政治的な行為であること。特集な文脈であると、毎日の日本人と外国人の国籍に拠っての人々関係と状態を表すこと。どの場合でも、英語で固定した表ですよ。


お願い致します。
Roddy Stegemann
United States
Local time: 15:33
従来型（の）政治
Explanation:
politics as usual は一種の慣用句で、「いままでどおりの変わらない政治」という意味になります。以下のサイトにある「従来型政治」という訳でOKでしょう。

http://www.speak-eng.net/news/20020604.html

In a resounding defeat of politics as usual, fiery reformer Junichiro Koizumi was elected Tuesday to lead Japan's ruling party and replace Prime Minister Yoshiro Mori as premier.

2001/4/24付 USA TODAYより
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ejprotran
Local time: 07:33
Grading comment
I will grade my answer in English, so that encoding does not present a problem for anyone.

To begin, I would like to thank both Susan and Yohei for their useful contributions. Especially Susan for her loyal help and Yohei for his generous correction of my still rudimentary command of Japanese style.

I am always pleased when a native speaking Japanese corrects my Japanese in such a way that it reflects exactly what I wish to say. It tells me that I am understandable, provided that I do not speak too much, and turn off the entire Japanese universe as a result! I only wish that more East Asians felt the same about their own ability in English. It would make cross-cultural communication in East Asia so much more pleasant.

I have chosen ejprotran's entry because of its brevity and completeness. Although it suggests a temporal character that many of the other entries do not contain, it appears to come closest to the English fixed expression, when employed in a genuinely political context.

Finally, Susan, the next time I or anyone else enters something with Unicode go to the VIEW, or similar menu, in your browser window and look for a command or command option that deals with encoding. There you will likely find the option UNICODE UTF-8. Click on it, and your browser will download the webpage a second time using UNICODE UTF-8 encoding. I prefer this encoding for two reasons:

1) As an Apple user Shift-JIS often results in moji-bake in the ProZ.com E-J and J-E language pairs.
2) UNICODE UTF-8 enables the listing of both Japanese and Chinese characters on the same page.

I apologize for the extreme delay, but there is a correct moment for everything, and this appeared to be it.

Once again, thank you everyone!

Hamo

Disclaimer: My full use of this and other forums has been restricted for reasons unknown, so please forgive my lack of direct support for answers offered by other contributors and critical assessment of non-contributors who are misleading and/or abusive.
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Summary of answers provided
4See explanation
humbird
4いつもの政治ゲーム、政治上の駆け引き、国家間の駆け引き
Yohei Fukataki
4従来型（の）政治
ejprotran


  

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6 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
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Explanation:
Due to the encoding I cannot read a word of your posting. Thereby I only answer to your question "politics as usual". I don't think there is any concrete and exact matching cliche commonly used in Japanese language, as in Enlgish original. Woops, you are asking in Japanese.
もとの英語に対抗する日本語はないと思いますが、アイデアとしてはこんなふうになるかもしれません。
「例によって例のごとき政治ゲーム」
「政治家のすることはどれも同じ」
「どっちを向いても同じ、政治家のたわごと」
要するに日本でもアメリカでも、政治家は信用されていないのですね。



humbird
Native speaker of: Native in JapaneseJapanese, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
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いつもの政治ゲーム、政治上の駆け引き、国家間の駆け引き


Explanation:
ご質問の文章の意味は以下のようなものだと推測してお答えしました。ご質問の趣旨に合ってますでしょうか。
「この表現の意味は色々あると思いますが、クドズのグロッサリーの中では一つも見付かりません。簡単な意味の説明としては、通常の政治的な行為であること、特殊な文脈で用いられること、日本と外国との国家間の基本的関係と日常のつきあい方を表すということ、です。どの場合であっても、英語ではよく用いられる固定的表現です。」


Yohei Fukataki
Japan
Local time: 07:33
Native speaker of: Native in JapaneseJapanese
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18 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
従来型（の）政治


Explanation:
politics as usual は一種の慣用句で、「いままでどおりの変わらない政治」という意味になります。以下のサイトにある「従来型政治」という訳でOKでしょう。

http://www.speak-eng.net/news/20020604.html

In a resounding defeat of politics as usual, fiery reformer Junichiro Koizumi was elected Tuesday to lead Japan's ruling party and replace Prime Minister Yoshiro Mori as premier.

2001/4/24付 USA TODAYより

ejprotran
Local time: 07:33
Native speaker of: Native in JapaneseJapanese
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
I will grade my answer in English, so that encoding does not present a problem for anyone.

To begin, I would like to thank both Susan and Yohei for their useful contributions. Especially Susan for her loyal help and Yohei for his generous correction of my still rudimentary command of Japanese style.

I am always pleased when a native speaking Japanese corrects my Japanese in such a way that it reflects exactly what I wish to say. It tells me that I am understandable, provided that I do not speak too much, and turn off the entire Japanese universe as a result! I only wish that more East Asians felt the same about their own ability in English. It would make cross-cultural communication in East Asia so much more pleasant.

I have chosen ejprotran's entry because of its brevity and completeness. Although it suggests a temporal character that many of the other entries do not contain, it appears to come closest to the English fixed expression, when employed in a genuinely political context.

Finally, Susan, the next time I or anyone else enters something with Unicode go to the VIEW, or similar menu, in your browser window and look for a command or command option that deals with encoding. There you will likely find the option UNICODE UTF-8. Click on it, and your browser will download the webpage a second time using UNICODE UTF-8 encoding. I prefer this encoding for two reasons:

1) As an Apple user Shift-JIS often results in moji-bake in the ProZ.com E-J and J-E language pairs.
2) UNICODE UTF-8 enables the listing of both Japanese and Chinese characters on the same page.

I apologize for the extreme delay, but there is a correct moment for everything, and this appeared to be it.

Once again, thank you everyone!

Hamo

Disclaimer: My full use of this and other forums has been restricted for reasons unknown, so please forgive my lack of direct support for answers offered by other contributors and critical assessment of non-contributors who are misleading and/or abusive.
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