brachiator

Serbian translation: dugoruki majmun

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English term or phrase:brachiator
Serbian translation:dugoruki majmun
Entered by: Mira Stepanovic

13:57 Feb 7, 2006
English to Serbian translations [PRO]
Zoology
English term or phrase: brachiator
Vrsta majmuna je u pitanju, verovatno oni sa dugackim rukama koji se veru po drvecu. Tu spada nekoliko vrsta majmuna ukljucujuci gibone.
MayaImp
Local time: 20:55
dugoruki majmun
Explanation:
Brehm: Zivot zivotinja
izdanje: Prosvjeta, Zagreb 1982
str 31:Ni u jednog majmuna prednji udovi nisu tako razvijeni kao u gibona ili dugorukih majmuna (Hylobatidae)....
Sumatranski Sijamang (...) je svojom visinom ... najvisi medju dugorukim majmunima...
Izrazajnija obiljezja tog roda pokazuje dugoruki bulok, dugoruki majmun...

Kada se iskombinuje sa objasnjenjem pojma "brachiator" datog na sajtu Wikipedia dobija se da su to dugoruki majmuni, i taj pojam ne predstavlja odredjenu vrstu majmuna vec skupinu sa istim osobinama.

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Upravo izrazito duge ruke tih majmuna im omogucavaju da se krecu na nacin koji je naveo kolega Bojan.

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Dugoruki majmun(brachiator) nije ni familija ni vrsta majmuna vec pojam koji objedinjuje majmune sa istim osobinama (kretanje kroz krosnje koristeci snazne duge ruke) iz razlicitih familija i vrsta. Tacno je da se familija Hylobatidae (latinski naziv te je isto i u srpskom i u engleskom)odnosi na gibone ali "brachiators" nisu samo giboni ("Brachiators are a type of primates MOSTLY from the family Hylobatidae, which includes gibbons." - kao sto je navela koleginica Rina1)vec i majmuni iz nekih drugih familija i vrsta.

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Postovana koleginice Rina1, vas trud na objasnjenju koje sve vrste majmuna spadaju u familiju Hylobatidae (giboni + jos neke vrste) je za svaku pohvalu, i sve sto ste naveli je potpuno tacno. Medjutim, ovde je postavljeno sasvim drugo pitanje, a to je prevod na srpski jezik pojma "brachiator". Dakle kao sto sam vec navela, to je siri pojam od familije "Hylobatidae" jer obuhvata jos neke vrste majmuna iz drugih familija sto se jasno vidi kako iz teksta koji ste vi prethodno naveli tako i iz navedene knjige (Brehm). Dakle, ustaljeni strucni prevod reci "brachiator" na srpski jezik je "dugoruki majmun".

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Note added at 2 days18 hrs (2006-02-10 08:42:19 GMT)
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Spider Monkey


http://www.honoluluzoo.org/spider_monkey.htm





Scientific name: Ateles geoffroyi geoffroyi
Order: Primates
Family: Cebidae (new world monkeys)
Subfamily: Atelinae
Genus: Ateles
Species: Geoffroyi (Black Handed Spider Monkey)
Subspecies: geoffroyi (Geoffroy's Spider Monkey)

PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS

New world monkeys like the spider monkey are more primitive than old world monkeys. Their brains are less complex, their thumbs are not opposable and their nostrils are further apart. They have slender bodies and limbs with long narrow hands.

The black-handed spider monkey has a light to medium

kao sto se odavde moze videti, "spider monkey" pripada familiji "CEBIDAE"

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Note added at 2 days19 hrs (2006-02-10 09:47:37 GMT)
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"Brachiators by design are gibbons and spider monkeys" - kao sto je navela koleginica Rina1
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Summary of answers provided
4neka od vrsta GIBONA, GIBON
RINA LINGUISTIC SERVICES, Katarina Radojevic- Mitrovic
4brahijator
Bojan Kicurovski
4dugoruki majmun
Mira Stepanovic


Discussion entries: 7





  

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21 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
neka od vrsta GIBONA, GIBON


Explanation:
Kako je to majmun iz familije Hylobatidae, a nju cine GIBONI, rec je o nekom od GIBONA (ima beloruki i ne znam tacno druge vrste). Vidite dole:
Superfamilia Hominoidea - ljudoliki majmuni i ljudi. Giboni su objedinjeni u familiju Hylobatidae i odlikuju se jako izdućenim prednjim udovima pomoĘu kojih spretno puću po drveĘu tropskih πuma. Nemaju rep. Postoji nekoliko vrsta koje naseljavaju jugoistoËnu Aziju i Sundska ostrva, npr. Hylobates lar - beloruki gibon i Hylobates (=Symphalangus) syndactylus - sijamang. Familiju Pongidae Ëine majmuni koji su prema celokupnoj telesnoj organizaciji vrlo sliËni Ëoveku. Oni idu uspravno na dve noge, gazeĘi celim stopalom i oslanjajuĘi se pri hodu na savijene prste prednjih udova, koji su znatno dući od zadnjih. Rep im je potpuno zakrćljao kao i kod Ëoveka i sadrći samo nekoliko rudimentnih prπljenova. Prema gra i mozga i umnim sposobnostima ovi majmuni daleko prevazilaze sve ostale ćivotinje i u tom pogledu, tako e, stoje najbliće Ëoveku. Danas je ova porodica zastupljena sa svega tri vrste pri Ëemu gorila - Gorilla gorilla i πimpanza - Pan troglodytes ćive u Africi a orangutan - Pongo pygmaeus - na Borneu i Sumatri. U familju Hominidae spada Ëovek i njegovi direktni preci, taËnije ova porodica je danas zastupljena samo jednim rodom sa jednom jedinom vrstom, a to je Homo sapiens - Ëovek.Brachiator

Brachiators are a type of primates mostly from the family Hylobatidae, which includes gibbons. Brachiators use their arms to move from tree branch to tree branch, through a process called brachiation. Their arms are longer than their legs, and are much more powerful. "Brachiation was traditionally used to explain the morphology of hominids and other primates - i.e. because they evolved the brachiating habit, they evolved the morphology they have....Pongines (orangutans) have long arms and supple hands, but detailed examination of their musculature reveals that they really can't brachiate too well - same goes for hominines -... Brachiators by design are gibbons and spider monkeys, which have odd upper arm muscles and reduced thumbs." (http://dml.cmnh.org/1995Nov/msg00410.html)
http://mahpm.hpm.hr/predav12.htm

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Vidite ovde imate sve vrste koje spadaju u ovu familiju, a i ostale vrste majmuna. Mozda Vam pomogne.http://alas.matf.bg.ac.yu/~mr04162/opiszivotinja.html#giboni

RINA LINGUISTIC SERVICES, Katarina Radojevic- Mitrovic
Serbia
Local time: 20:55
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in Serbo-CroatSerbo-Croat
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brahijator


Explanation:
Svi pripadnici porodice GIBONI (Hylobatidae) su brahijatori.
Brahijacija = sposobnost kretanja sa grane na granu, sa lijane na lijanu iskljucivo uz pomoc ruku
Gr. Brachion = ruka

They, as all gibbons, use a special way of getting through the trees, it is called brachiation, going hand over hand, swinging from branch to branch, usually at speed.



    www.wildanimalpark.co.uk/.../ gibbon.htm
    Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brachiation
Bojan Kicurovski
North Macedonia
Local time: 20:55
Native speaker of: Native in MacedonianMacedonian, Native in SerbianSerbian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  RINA LINGUISTIC SERVICES, Katarina Radojevic- Mitrovic: nisam sigurna da u srpskom postoji ovaj naziv
17 hrs
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
dugoruki majmun


Explanation:
Brehm: Zivot zivotinja
izdanje: Prosvjeta, Zagreb 1982
str 31:Ni u jednog majmuna prednji udovi nisu tako razvijeni kao u gibona ili dugorukih majmuna (Hylobatidae)....
Sumatranski Sijamang (...) je svojom visinom ... najvisi medju dugorukim majmunima...
Izrazajnija obiljezja tog roda pokazuje dugoruki bulok, dugoruki majmun...

Kada se iskombinuje sa objasnjenjem pojma "brachiator" datog na sajtu Wikipedia dobija se da su to dugoruki majmuni, i taj pojam ne predstavlja odredjenu vrstu majmuna vec skupinu sa istim osobinama.

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Note added at 2 hrs (2006-02-07 16:08:56 GMT)
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Upravo izrazito duge ruke tih majmuna im omogucavaju da se krecu na nacin koji je naveo kolega Bojan.

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Note added at 22 hrs (2006-02-08 12:32:04 GMT)
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Dugoruki majmun(brachiator) nije ni familija ni vrsta majmuna vec pojam koji objedinjuje majmune sa istim osobinama (kretanje kroz krosnje koristeci snazne duge ruke) iz razlicitih familija i vrsta. Tacno je da se familija Hylobatidae (latinski naziv te je isto i u srpskom i u engleskom)odnosi na gibone ali "brachiators" nisu samo giboni ("Brachiators are a type of primates MOSTLY from the family Hylobatidae, which includes gibbons." - kao sto je navela koleginica Rina1)vec i majmuni iz nekih drugih familija i vrsta.

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Note added at 1 day22 hrs (2006-02-09 12:12:00 GMT)
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Postovana koleginice Rina1, vas trud na objasnjenju koje sve vrste majmuna spadaju u familiju Hylobatidae (giboni + jos neke vrste) je za svaku pohvalu, i sve sto ste naveli je potpuno tacno. Medjutim, ovde je postavljeno sasvim drugo pitanje, a to je prevod na srpski jezik pojma "brachiator". Dakle kao sto sam vec navela, to je siri pojam od familije "Hylobatidae" jer obuhvata jos neke vrste majmuna iz drugih familija sto se jasno vidi kako iz teksta koji ste vi prethodno naveli tako i iz navedene knjige (Brehm). Dakle, ustaljeni strucni prevod reci "brachiator" na srpski jezik je "dugoruki majmun".

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Note added at 2 days18 hrs (2006-02-10 08:42:19 GMT)
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Spider Monkey


http://www.honoluluzoo.org/spider_monkey.htm





Scientific name: Ateles geoffroyi geoffroyi
Order: Primates
Family: Cebidae (new world monkeys)
Subfamily: Atelinae
Genus: Ateles
Species: Geoffroyi (Black Handed Spider Monkey)
Subspecies: geoffroyi (Geoffroy's Spider Monkey)

PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS

New world monkeys like the spider monkey are more primitive than old world monkeys. Their brains are less complex, their thumbs are not opposable and their nostrils are further apart. They have slender bodies and limbs with long narrow hands.

The black-handed spider monkey has a light to medium

kao sto se odavde moze videti, "spider monkey" pripada familiji "CEBIDAE"

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Note added at 2 days19 hrs (2006-02-10 09:47:37 GMT)
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"Brachiators by design are gibbons and spider monkeys" - kao sto je navela koleginica Rina1


    Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brachiator
Mira Stepanovic
Serbia
Local time: 20:55
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in Serbo-CroatSerbo-Croat
PRO pts in category: 48
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Hvala!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  RINA LINGUISTIC SERVICES, Katarina Radojevic- Mitrovic: Problem je sto je u srpskom citava fam. Hylobatidae nazvana fam. GIBONA, pa to stvara zabunu izmedju familije i vrste gibona. Sve u svemu, Vase objasnjenje je korektno, ali ne znam da li postoji poseban naziv.
17 hrs
  -> slazem se, ali te ostale manje vrste ne pripadaju familiji gibona, i svi oni su dugoruki majmuni (brachiators) sto je vrlo jasno objasnjeno u prethodno navedenoj knjizi (Brehm)
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