activité de déplacement (in this particular context)

English translation: displacement task(s); journeys

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French term or phrase:	activité de déplacement (in this particular context)
English translation:	displacement task(s); journeys
Entered by:	Carol Gullidge

10:39 May 7, 2008

French to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc. / social psychology

French term or phrase: activité de déplacement (in this particular context)

Pour l’usager de la route qui se déplace, la sécurité ne constitue ni un but, ni même un moyen : elle n’est qu’une condition subjectivement évaluée et acceptée comme telle. En revanche, c’est la représentation qu’a le piéton du système routier qui constitue le modèle mental (Bainbridge, 1980) sur lequel il va se baser pour réguler son """ACTIVITÉ DE DÉPLACEMENT"""

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The problem here is that "displacement activity" and "activity of displacement" are two entirely separate concepts, not related (as far as I know!) to the simple activity of getting around/getting from A to B.

This is a thesis on the attitudes and perceptions of road users (both pedestrians and drivers) to road safety in urban areas.

I'm quite happy to translate around it, but would prefer to use an "official" term if one exists.

If anyone can tell me whether or not this is the case, I'd be very grateful - many thanks!

Carol Gullidge KudoZ activity Questions: 352 (1 open) (1 without valid answers) (3 closed without grading) Answers: 2710 United Kingdom
Local time: 03:28

displacement task(s)

Explanation:
"This model can easily be applied to the pedestrian who deals with a displacement task including road crossing at a crossroads..."

OR simply Displacements:

"Studying walking behaviors in urban settings was the aim of several studies in various disciplines: in Psychology (e.g., Michon & Denis, 2001; Tom & Denis, 2004), in Accidentology (e.g., Carré & Julien, 2000), in Transportation Planning (e.g., Fruin, 1971) as well as in Flow Simulation (e.g.,Yang, Deng, Wang, Li & Wang, 2006). Through these different disciplines, one can observe that these displacements are not always made easy, and neither is their comprehension. In fact, numerous elements of the urban architecture come into play to hinder the progress of pedestrians..."

www.ictct.org/workshops/07-Beijing/1_4Tom44_54.pdf

Selected response from:

sueaberwoman
Local time: 04:28

Grading comment

Many thanks sueaberwoman! This seems to be the closest to the concept I'm looking for! (Why didn't I think of "tasks"!). And I see from your link that just plain "displacements" can be used for the general concept of getting from A to B...
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

Exchange Activity (in this part context)

Jack Dunwell

approach to road safety

Andy Bliss

displacement task(s)

sueaberwoman

transitory activities

Speakering (X)

displacement activity

Katarina Peters

2 +1

[for his] walking behavior

giltal (X)

Discussion entries: 13

Carol Gullidge

United Kingdom

ASKER

09:23 May 14, 2008

Many thanks to everybody, including all the helpful messages posted above - which it appears will get wiped out at some stage - pity, as they have really helped towards making sense of the whole thing.

Hélène Treloar

13:33 May 7, 2008

Movement reaction, a thought..........or activity reaction...........

atche84

13:11 May 7, 2008

Carol, why you don't like the 'moving activity(ies)', a more general and maybe more appropriate for pedestrians?

Julie Barber

United Kingdom

12:02 May 7, 2008

W/a - not sure for your 'non Pro' vote when this has a context and the asker is right to check it out - unless you're up to speed with psychology. It might seem obvious (travel), but it's true that there could be a set phrase.

Julie Barber

United Kingdom

11:59 May 7, 2008

Apart, from CM's travel comment (my understanding too), 'displacement' in English is something different so I would have presumed that it wouldn't be used in the English at all in this context

Jack Dunwell

France

11:34 May 7, 2008

Sorry, Carol, I was a bit obtuse. I think the translation is based on the word "Exchange" from "Exchange theory" and possibly "Exchange Activity" And he didn't know that there would be a fr>eng translation one day with pot confusion with "displacement Ac

Carol Gullidge

United Kingdom

ASKER

11:17 May 7, 2008

I would simply have used "displacement activity" had this not already got its own, quite different, definition

Carol Gullidge

United Kingdom

ASKER

11:15 May 7, 2008

thanks cmw! Yes, that is all it means - although I wouldn't use that specifically for the pedestrians - who are included in the category of "road users". It's simply getting from A to B. But since it's used so much in this Soc-Psy thesis, I wondered if there isn't a more official translation. If not, I can simply say "moving around" or some such...

cmwilliams (X)

United Kingdom

11:09 May 7, 2008

Doesn't 'déplacement' just mean 'travel' in this context?

Carol Gullidge

United Kingdom

ASKER

11:02 May 7, 2008

Sorry: test = teXt!

Carol Gullidge

United Kingdom

ASKER

11:01 May 7, 2008

I should add that the author uses this term frequently throughout the test - not surprisingly, considering the theme. But this increases the need for a correct Soc-Psy term if such a thing exists.

Carol Gullidge

United Kingdom

ASKER

10:57 May 7, 2008

Hi fourth: by "problem", do you mean that perhaps he coined, eg, "displacement activity", but that this term subsequently got hijacked by other social psychologists for their own purposes?

Jack Dunwell

France

10:48 May 7, 2008

Carol, is it all possible that this M Bainbridge, who is apparently known for his "Exchange theory" had no idea that there would be this sort of problem when he coined it?

Answers

3 hrs confidence:

displacement activity

Explanation:
Even though déplacement does not translate as displacement, it seems it is used in psychology. A few examples found:

PDF] A Pedestrian Lament for CompassionateFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
pedestrians when road connections are disconnected, or when existing. roads become increasingly dangerous to cross. 3) Displacement due to construction or ...
www.kzntransport.gov.za/reading_room/research/general/Pedes... - Similar pages

Niconoclast: Dunblame9 Mar 2006 ... This sort of displacement or projection psychology has been ... I've seen similar displacement activities for as long as I can remember. ...
www.niconoclast.blogspot.com/2006/03/dunblame.html - 79k - Cached - Similar pages

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Note added at 4 hrs (2008-05-07 15:21:05 GMT)
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Thanks Carol, I understand it now, my problem is not having read everything thoroughly...therefore, how about "pedestrian/driver traffic" or "circulation activities" or "transiting" or just simply "moving about"?

Katarina Peters
Canada
Local time: 22:28
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Hungarian,

English

Notes to answerer

Asker: thanks Katarina! The problem here is that "displacement activities" is a well-used concept in social psychology, but that it has a different meaning (as in your 2nd link), i.e transferring a focus from one thing to another, which has nothing to do with the simple act of moving about, which is intended here

2 hrs confidence:

Exchange Activity (in this part context)

Explanation:
As above

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Note added at 4 hrs (2008-05-07 15:16:10 GMT)
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Have you tried google Bainbridge Exchange?

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Note added at 4 hrs (2008-05-07 15:27:40 GMT)
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Stark and Bainbridge 1980 ? Jetpress .org?
Don't you like it Carol? Do you have a natural aversion to Religion, then?Like?
OK Beryl it is then. But I have to say, she's not my cup of tea.

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Note added at 5 hrs (2008-05-07 16:06:42 GMT)
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Thick? It'll never catch on.

You stay with your Scylla of the brakelessNo 49 Bus and Charybdis of Granny stopping in the middle of the pedestrian crossing to pick the flowers

I'm going back to my Beano

Jack Dunwell
France
Local time: 04:28
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 12

Notes to answerer

Asker: thanks fourth! I'm still trying to see whether Bainbridge's Exchange Theory could have a connection. So far, his theory, which is about Religion, hasn't come up with the goods, but I'll delve a little deeper...

Asker: Hi: yes I did, as soon as you posted your note, above. I don't know how many Bainbridges there are/were, but my research keeps leading back to this: "Exchange Theory of Religious Claims. by William Sims Bainbridge ".

Asker: Sorry to be so thick! I've just realised that Bainbridge's "mental model" has nothing to do with physical movement, but with cognitive processes, ie, the pedestrian is going to use B's "mental model" on which to base his own representations of the traffic system

8 hrs confidence:

approach to road safety

Explanation:
I agree with CMWilliams that in this context 'déplacement' has nothing to do with 'displacement' in a psychological sense - it simply refers to the way that pedestrians choose to get around. 'Déplacement' is an everyday term for a trip from A to B.

The point which the author seems to be making is that the way in which pedestrians go about crossing roads (or maybe walking along them, if we think of country lanes) is based upon a perception of road safety / potential dangers which differs from that of car drivers and other road users.

Andy Bliss
Local time: 04:28
Native speaker of: English

Notes to answerer

Asker: Thanks Andy for this thoughtful answer. This is in fact what the article is about (pedestrians' representations of various aspects of road safety), déplacement here being a physical one as opposed to a psychological one. I'm still looking for a term that covers movements in town of pedestrians, cyclists, lorry drivers, etc. I was hoping that one word or term would cover it, but have to avoid "displacement activity", which already has other, psychological, uses

11 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

[for his] walking behavior

Explanation:
I don't see how you can keep a noun in this case. Even walking activity or moving activity seems wrong.

giltal (X)
Local time: 23:28
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

French

Notes to answerer

Asker: many thanks for this giltal! I got excited about this possibility as it seems to fit, but closer research shows this to be more specifically about the action/motion of walking, ie, putting one foot in front of the other. But I'll rearch further to see whether this term can also be used in a more general sense...

12 hrs confidence:

displacement task(s)

sueaberwoman
Local time: 04:28
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English,

French
PRO pts in category: 4

Grading comment

6 days confidence:

transitory activities

Explanation:
i think you need a term that is spacial as well as reflects on certain psychological state of mind.

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Note added at 7 days (2008-05-14 15:27:42 GMT) Post-grading
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maybe i should have said transient activities, sorry! in usa, transient refers to boho or gypsy lifestyle, so maybe they are saying that we can feel like one at least during our travel from our home to our friends home.

Speakering (X)
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Macedonian,

Serbo-Croat

Notes to answerer

Asker: many thanks speakering! Transitory really means ephemeral, but this did lead to "transit activities", which seemed to have great possibilities. However, it turns out that transit is a term used for public transport, so can't apply in this particular case.

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