kasep

English translation: bachelor

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Indonesian term or phrase:	kasep
English translation:	bachelor
Entered by:	Catherine Muir

03:40 Jan 19, 2011

Indonesian to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Poetry & Literature / Malay lingua franca used in Java at turn of 20th C.

Indonesian term or phrase: kasep

Definition of 'kasep' is 'terlalu'. However, this definition doesn't seem to fit in the following context, a sentence in an hikayat written in 1910 in Malay lingua franca:

"Anak Jokaryo, Joko kasep Simin, segera bangun menyusul anjingnya di jalanan desa dan dibawanya kembali ke gardu."

What would the English translation of 'kasep' be in this context?

Catherine Muir KudoZ activity Questions: 131 (none open) (1 without valid answers) (12 closed without grading) Answers: 206 Australia
Local time: 00:13

bachelor

Explanation:
a single man, usually above marriage-age man who does not have a spouse or does not seek personal partner (usually referred to as a degrading term, in Indonesian culture)

Selected response from:

Siti Nur Aini
Indonesia
Local time: 21:13

Grading comment

While the interpretation is similar to Kurniawan's, the term 'bachelor' is preferred.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

5 +5

late to get married

kurniawan

3 +2

the good-looking

Evina Utami

bachelor

Siti Nur Aini

Discussion entries: 2

Answers

11 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

the good-looking

Explanation:
IMHO, it derives from a Sundanese word with its original meaning a Sundanese lad.
Nowadays, kasep is ganteng in Indonesian, handsome or good-looking in English.

CMIIW

http://www.artikata.com/arti-333180-kasep.php

Evina Utami
Indonesia
Local time: 21:13
Native speaker of:

Indonesian,

Javanese

Notes to answerer

Asker: Thank you, but I'm not sure how I'd translate '... Joko kasep Simin...' in the sentence. Can you help?

3 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +5

late to get married

Explanation:
IMHO, the word Joko kasep origins from a well known phrase in the language of Jawa. It means an unmarried man who is beyond the usual age of marriage. If divided into two words, Joko means a virgin man, which is in your case the word joko does not refer to any proper name; while kasep means too late.

kurniawan
Indonesia
Local time: 21:13
Native speaker of:

Indonesian

Notes to answerer

Asker: Thanks very much. So, in this context, perhaps 'Joko kasep Simin' could be translated as 'his adult, but still unmarried, son Simin'. Setuju?

1 day 54 mins confidence:

bachelor

Explanation:
a single man, usually above marriage-age man who does not have a spouse or does not seek personal partner (usually referred to as a degrading term, in Indonesian culture)

Siti Nur Aini
Indonesia
Local time: 21:13
Works in field
Native speaker of: Indonesian
PRO pts in category: 4

Grading comment

While the interpretation is similar to Kurniawan's, the term 'bachelor' is preferred.

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