דפים בנושא: < [1 2] | Fake interpreter at Mandela funeral מפרסם התגובה: Samuel Murray
| hanan-gh לוב Local time: 00:52 מאנגלית לערבית + ...
couple of weeks ago I had a chat with a lady who works as a sign teacher , I was surprised when she tolled me that the sign language varies even in one part of country, I thought it is the same every where but it seems to be as a multi dialects in some countries! the man looks like he is confidant of what he does. | | | Fake interpreter AND fake schizophrenic??? | Dec 12, 2013 |
"This illness (schizophrenia) is unfair," he said. "Anyone who doesn't understand this illness will think that I'm just making this up."
Medical experts poured scorn on that claim too.
"There were many features of Mr (Jantjie's) signing that do not chime with the typical presentation of disordered signing caused by a psychotic episode," said Jo Atkinson, an clinical psychologist at University College London.
If this entire story is correct, this man probably escaped from a mental institution to do it. They should be concerned about finding where he locked up the real interpreter who was hired to do this job. | | |
Kaspars Melkis wrote:
Unbelievable but they never learn.
Jantjie, whose first language is Xhosa -- the same as Mandela’s -- was paid 800 rand ($77) for the full-day event, Bogopane-Zulu said. That compares with the as much as 1,700 rand an hour typical fee for a sign language interpreter, she said.
Maybe now the world will finally get the message: You get what you pay for. You pay peanuts, you get monkeys. | | | 2.5 here in the US | Dec 13, 2013 |
hanan-gh wrote:
couple of weeks ago I had a chat with a lady who works as a sign teacher , I was surprised when she tolled me that the sign language varies even in one part of country, I thought it is the same every where but it seems to be as a multi dialects in some countries! the man looks like he is confidant of what he does.
My mom was a sign language interpreter WAY back in the day. I didn't pick up nearly as much sign language as I would have liked, but here in the US we have two main styles of sign language, but most use a combination of the two.
Here's a video that was pretty popular here for a while of a reporter "having a stroke" in the middle of her broadcast. I guess some people just shouldn't be on TV.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtCGb4fnHYw | |
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Samuel Murray הולנד Local time: 23:52 חבר (2006) מאנגלית לאפריקאנס + ... TOPIC STARTER How much interpreters *really* earn in South Africa | Dec 13, 2013 |
Kaspars Melkis wrote:
[Bloomberg News reports the following]:
Jantjie, whose first language is Xhosa -- the same as Mandela’s -- was paid 800 rand ... for the full-day event, Bogopane-Zulu said. That compares with the as much as 1,700 rand an hour typical fee for a sign language interpreter, [Hendrietta Bogopane-Zulu, South Africa's deputy minister of Women, Children and People With Disabilities] said.
R1700 per hour? That may be what the interpreters are *worth*, and what interpreter associations lobby for, but that isn't what is "typical".
The most recent survey of the South African Translators' Institute shows the following average interpreting rates:
* consecutive interpreting (all languages) = between R380 and R480 per hour
* simultaneous interpreting (South African languages) = R360 per hour
The current exchange rate is roughly R10:$1.
Note that the South African Translation Institute's online freelance register contains only 2 "members" who offer sign language interpreting, namely what appears to be a husband-and-wife team. Elsewhere I've read that there are only seven accredited SASL sign language interpreters in the entire county.
Amazingly, the DeafSA web site contains interpreter rates for sign language interpreters (not sure if they're recommended rates). The DeafSA rates for non-accredited interpreters are:
Up to 4 hours = R300 per hour (so, $30 per hour)
More than 4 hours = R1500 per day
So... where on earth does the minister get her figure "R1700 per hour" from???
[Edited at 2013-12-13 11:15 GMT] | | | Tom in London הממלכה המאוחדת Local time: 22:52 חבר (2008) מאיטלקית לאנגלית
hanan-gh wrote:
couple of weeks ago I had a chat with a lady who works as a sign teacher , I was surprised when she tolled me that the sign language varies even in one part of country, I thought it is the same every where but it seems to be as a multi dialects in some countries! the man looks like he is confidant of what he does.
She tolled you? | | | Ty Kendall הממלכה המאוחדת Local time: 22:52 מעברית לאנגלית Far too trusting | Dec 13, 2013 |
hanan-gh wrote:
the man looks like he is confidant [sic] of what he does.
Yes, he's a very confident liar.
Look closely at his hand signals, you don't need to understand sign language to realise that his movements are practically identical with only the slightest variation and also extremely repetitive.
Surely you have seen the Catherine Tate "fake interpreter" clip? (it's done the rounds many times). She plays an extremely confident interpreter, without speaking a word of the languages she interprets into.
Same thing here.
See here:
http://imgur.com/Wv4GTI9
Edited for humorous link.
[Edited at 2013-12-13 10:55 GMT] | | | Catherine Tate | Dec 13, 2013 |
Ty Kendall wrote:
hanan-gh wrote:
the man looks like he is confidant [sic] of what he does.
Yes, he's a very confident liar.
Look closely at his hand signals, you don't need to understand sign language to realise that his movements are practically identical with only the slightest variation and also extremely repetitive.
Surely you have seen the Catherine Tate "fake interpreter" clip? (it's done the rounds many times). She plays an extremely confident interpreter, without speaking a word of the languages she interprets into.
Same thing here.
See here:
http://imgur.com/Wv4GTI9
Edited for humorous link.
Yes, the Catherine Tate interpreter sketch is hilarious - not only for her outrageous faking of the various languages but also for the increasingly bewildered expressions on the faces of her listeners. I especially like her version of Swedish - "hurdy-gurdy-hurdy-gurdy".
In the real world, how extraordinary it is that fakers such as the Mandela sign-language man have such apparent confidence in what they're doing. I think I'd be visibly trembling with fear of being found out.
Fascinating.
[Edited at 2013-12-13 10:55 GMT] | |
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XXXphxxx (X) הממלכה המאוחדת Local time: 22:52 מפורטוגזית לאנגלית + ... My first thought when I heard the story | Dec 13, 2013 |
Ty Kendall wrote:
Surely you have seen the Catherine Tate "fake interpreter" clip? | | | Well, it is Friday... | Dec 13, 2013 |
Tom in London wrote:
She tolled you?
Yes, it rang a bell in her memory... | | | There is no need... | Dec 13, 2013 |
to make fun of non English mother tongue colleagues, regardless of their opinion... it's just in bad taste. | | |
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I'm surprised this hasn't made it here yet:
"What happened that day, I see angels come to the stadium ... I start realizing that the problem is here. And the problem, I don't know the attack of this problem, how will it comes. Sometimes I react violent on that place. Sometimes I will see things that chase me," Jantjie said.
Asked how often he had become violent, he said "a lot" while declining to provide details.
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