Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
hertzien
English translation:
terrestrial
Added to glossary by
Clare Macnamara
May 2, 2005 19:41
19 yrs ago
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French term
Fast, efficient and intuitive.
Native in: English 
Works in: Spanish to English, French to English
hertzien
French to English
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The context is DTT and a few of the phrases containing the term I need are: **télévisions hertziennes analogiques** and **mode hertzien terrestre** and **télévisions diffusées par voie hertzienne terrestre en mode analogique ou numérique**.
I don't think Hertzian is right ... Any suggestions much appreciated.
I don't think Hertzian is right ... Any suggestions much appreciated.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +4 | terrestrial |
Connor
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| 4 +1 | terrestrial broadcast |
Tony M
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| 5 -1 | broadcast |
Pierre Renault
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| 4 -1 | Hertzian |
swisstell
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| 4 -1 | radio-relay |
Michael Powers (PhD)
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| 4 -1 | radio-relay |
Michael Powers (PhD)
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Proposed translations
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11 mins
Selected
terrestrial
1.analogue television / analogue terrestrial television (ATT)
2. digital television / digital terrestrial television (DTT)
3. broadcasting via ATT/DTT
2. digital television / digital terrestrial television (DTT)
3. broadcasting via ATT/DTT
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Finn Skovgaard (X)
: Hertzien is commonly used in France for terrestrial TV. Collins-Robert translates terrestrial to hertzien. I've never heard anyone using "hertzian" or radio-relay in English in common use.
26 mins
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| agree |
Tony M
: Yes, though i think your suggestion 3. is best, as it is fairly important to retain the idea of '(radio) broadcasting'
45 mins
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| agree |
df49f (X)
: évidemment! on a déjà eu cette conversation y'a pas longtemps - answer in glossary
56 mins
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| agree |
Christopher RH
11 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks everyone. "
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1 min
Hertzian
and why not?
PDF] Study on the development of new advertising techniques - United ...
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... Other regional Music. Radios. Hertzian. Hertzian. Other Regional Talk. Radios.
Hertzian. Hertzian. Reception. Mode. Names. Transmission. Mode ...
europa.eu.int/comm/avpolicy/ stat/bird_bird/pub_radio_unitedkingdom.pdf - Ähnliche Seiten
[PDF] Study on the development of new advertising techniques - France
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... Hertzian. Canal +. Analogical. Hertzian. Hertzian. other reception mode : ...
Hertzian. Names. Comments for Other. reception mode. Transmission Mode ...
europa.eu.int/comm/avpolicy/ stat/bird_bird/pub_tv_france.pdf -
PDF] Study on the development of new advertising techniques - United ...
Dateiformat: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - HTML-Version
... Other regional Music. Radios. Hertzian. Hertzian. Other Regional Talk. Radios.
Hertzian. Hertzian. Reception. Mode. Names. Transmission. Mode ...
europa.eu.int/comm/avpolicy/ stat/bird_bird/pub_radio_unitedkingdom.pdf - Ähnliche Seiten
[PDF] Study on the development of new advertising techniques - France
Dateiformat: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - HTML-Version
... Hertzian. Canal +. Analogical. Hertzian. Hertzian. other reception mode : ...
Hertzian. Names. Comments for Other. reception mode. Transmission Mode ...
europa.eu.int/comm/avpolicy/ stat/bird_bird/pub_tv_france.pdf -
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Tony M
: VERY rare, except in France or translated FR documents!
55 mins
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| neutral |
Christopher RH
: Although I agree with Dusty's comments, I think the Commission used poetic licence here to simplify the conundrum of describing radio broadcast transmission methods without (confusingly) using "radio" or "broadcast" which can also apply to the internet..
11 hrs
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-1
8 mins
Michael Powers (PhD)
United States
United States
Native in English
Works in field
United States
US Court Cert. 1980 Ph.D. 1981
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, Portuguese to English, English to Spanish, and 2 more.
radio-relay
Oxford Hachette French Dictionary
hertzien adj [onde- Herzian; [station, systême, liaison] radio-relay
Mike :)
hertzien adj [onde- Herzian; [station, systême, liaison] radio-relay
Mike :)
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Tony M
: This is only one specific meaning, not applicable here...
37 mins
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8 mins
Michael Powers (PhD)
United States
United States
Native in English
Works in field
United States
US Court Cert. 1980 Ph.D. 1981
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, Portuguese to English, English to Spanish, and 2 more.
radio-relay
Oxford Hachette French Dictionary
hertzien adj [onde- Herzian; [station, systême, liaison] radio-relay
Mike :)
hertzien adj [onde- Herzian; [station, systême, liaison] radio-relay
Mike :)
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Tony M
: Dusty: This is only one specific meaning, not applicable here... / Michael, do you want to hide this duplicate answer?
59 mins
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+1
53 mins
terrestrial broadcast
In the 3 specific examples you give, '(terrestrial) broadcast television' is a suitable way of expressing it.
'(par voie) hertzien(ne)' in its most general sense means 'transmitted by radio waves'; specific modern usage in French restricts this still further to 'terrestrial broadcast' (as distinct from satellite broadcasting or cable-casting) -- in one of your cases, 'analogue [BE] / analog [AE] or digital...'
hertzien = radio relay station is a sliught over-etrapolation of the meaning, not applicable in by any means all cases.
I would avoid 'Hertzian', which is highly uncommon in English, and certainly not for use in a general register.
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Here\'s what OED has to say about \'Hertzian\':
Hertzian a.
of or pertaining to Hertz or the phenomena discovered by him; Hertzian waves (obsolete except Historical), radio waves (Late 19th century)
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Oops, sorry for the typos: \"...slight over-extrapolation...\'
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Note added at 1 hr 29 mins (2005-05-02 21:10:40 GMT)
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Oops, sorry for the typos: \"...slight over-extrapolation...\'
'(par voie) hertzien(ne)' in its most general sense means 'transmitted by radio waves'; specific modern usage in French restricts this still further to 'terrestrial broadcast' (as distinct from satellite broadcasting or cable-casting) -- in one of your cases, 'analogue [BE] / analog [AE] or digital...'
hertzien = radio relay station is a sliught over-etrapolation of the meaning, not applicable in by any means all cases.
I would avoid 'Hertzian', which is highly uncommon in English, and certainly not for use in a general register.
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Note added at 1 hr 0 min (2005-05-02 20:41:19 GMT)
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Here\'s what OED has to say about \'Hertzian\':
Hertzian a.
of or pertaining to Hertz or the phenomena discovered by him; Hertzian waves (obsolete except Historical), radio waves (Late 19th century)
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Note added at 1 hr 10 mins (2005-05-02 20:51:47 GMT)
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Oops, sorry for the typos: \"...slight over-extrapolation...\'
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Note added at 1 hr 29 mins (2005-05-02 21:10:40 GMT)
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Oops, sorry for the typos: \"...slight over-extrapolation...\'
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2 hrs
broadcast
"Hertzienne" zimply means "broadcast over the air" as opposed to "over a wire".
You can safely eliminate them as being redundant in most instances.
télévisions hertziennes analogiques
broadcast television signals, broadcast television,
analog television broadcasting, etc.
mode hertzien terrestre
broadcast television
(the "terrestre" means "its not from a satellite or from a wire, and in English, it would be considered redundant to add "land", "antenna-based", ...)
télévisions diffusées par voie hertzienne terrestre en mode analogique ou numérique
Analog or digital television broadcasts(ing)
You can safely eliminate them as being redundant in most instances.
télévisions hertziennes analogiques
broadcast television signals, broadcast television,
analog television broadcasting, etc.
mode hertzien terrestre
broadcast television
(the "terrestre" means "its not from a satellite or from a wire, and in English, it would be considered redundant to add "land", "antenna-based", ...)
télévisions diffusées par voie hertzienne terrestre en mode analogique ou numérique
Analog or digital television broadcasts(ing)
Peer comment(s):
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Tony M
: Not always! I agree that the important underlying meaning is the 'broadcast' bit, but it IS usually important to specify 'terrestrial' or not... 'hertzien terrestre' would of course not be 'terrestrial terrestrial', but 'terrestrial broadcast(ing)'
10 hrs
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Discussion
Cheers, Clare! It's not a question of annoying, but often a very full discussion can be missed in this way, which may be of help to the asker. I'm glad you found it, and hope it helps!
:-)