Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
Marienkäfer
English translation:
ladybird beetle
Added to glossary by
John Speese
Oct 19, 2005 22:59
18 yrs ago
German term
Maikäfer, Marienkäfer
German to English
Art/Literary
Zoology
nursery rhymes
both are translated with ladybird. But they are completely different bugs, aren't they?
Are there other names in use in every day language (not the zoological terms)?
Are there other names in use in every day language (not the zoological terms)?
Proposed translations
(English)
Change log
Oct 20, 2005 14:51: Marcus Malabad changed "Term asked" from "Maikaefer, Marienkaefer" to "Maik�fer, Marienk�fer"
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German term (edited):
Maikaefer, Marienkaefer
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May beetle, ladybird beetle
I am an entomologist, and these are the terms I would use, although in the context of a nursery rhyme, the other terms such as ladybug may fit better, depending on the rhyming and the meter. Both of these insects, however, are beetles (order Coleoptera). May beetles, along with June beetles, cockchafers, Japanese beetles and dung beetles, and many others, belong to the family Scarabaeidae, from whence we get the word scarab, which of course is also in this family. Ladybird beetles are in the family Coccinellidae, and most species do indeed feed on aphids, scales, mealybugs and other harmful insects and are thus beneficial. I believe that Marienkaefer as well as the Spanish term Mariquita are both attributed to some medieval legend where, by a miracle, the blessed Virgin sent a large number of ladybird beetles to destroy a plague of aphids. Entomologically speaking, the term "bug" correctly applies only to the true bugs, order Hemiptera, which order includes such insects as the stink bugs, squash bugs, bed bugs and cinch bugs, and many others. In entomology, when an insect actually is a bug or a fly, its name is always written as two words (e.g., stink bug, house fly) and when it isn't a true bug or a true fly (order Diptera), it's written as one word (e.g., dragonfly, butterfly, mealybug). So if you're going to use the term ladybug, it should be written as one word because it's a beetle and not a bug. I've heard the term Junebug, but I can't say I've heard the term Maybug, but I suppose it does exist. Both May beetles and June beetles are members of the family Scarabaeidae and get their names from when they emerge as adults, often in great swarms. Scarab beetle larvae are the white grubs (Engerlinge) one finds in the soil. I remember vividly the swarms of "Junikaefer" the summer I spent in Innsbruck. All of this information can be found in any entomology textbook and countless websites.
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Comment: "Thanks. The lively discussion highlighted the confusion caused by two insects having the same name If I come across the English ladybird, without a visual aid, I can never be sure which term to use in German."
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German term (edited):
Maikaefer, Marienkaefer
June bug, ladybug
I'm not a bug expert, but I believe they are indeed different insects with the above translations
Reference:
Peer comment(s):
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Aleron
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thanks, Michael
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Kevin Fulton
: June bugs are large critters, ladybugs are small
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thanks, Kevin
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Roland Grefer
: According to Duden Universalwörterbuch, Muret-Sanders and Bertelsmann, the June bug (Juni-Käfer) is the garden chafer or summer chafer (Brachkäfer, Amphimallon solstitialis) which looks similar to the May beetle (Maikäfer) but is smaller.
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Edith Kelly
: with Roland, June bug is smaller (and darker)
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German term (edited):
Maikaefer, Marienkaefer
June/May beetle, ladybug / ladybird
They are indeed different species
As far as I know, the June or May bug is usually only around for these two months and not every year, while the ladybug is always present
June beetle or May beetle, a blackish or mahogany-colored beetle of the scarab
beetle family, widely distributed in North America and especially abundant in ...
www.encyclopedia.com/html/J/Junebeet.asp - 48k
Pictures:
www.entomology.umn.edu/.../IPM-turf.html
www.gencourt.state.nh.us/senate/misc/kids.html
Ladybug or Ladybird Beetle Information. Return to previous page ... In the spring, ladybird beetles and larvae are common on any plant with aphids or scale ...
insected.arizona.edu/ladyinfo.htm - 6k -
As far as I know, the June or May bug is usually only around for these two months and not every year, while the ladybug is always present
June beetle or May beetle, a blackish or mahogany-colored beetle of the scarab
beetle family, widely distributed in North America and especially abundant in ...
www.encyclopedia.com/html/J/Junebeet.asp - 48k
Pictures:
www.entomology.umn.edu/.../IPM-turf.html
www.gencourt.state.nh.us/senate/misc/kids.html
Ladybug or Ladybird Beetle Information. Return to previous page ... In the spring, ladybird beetles and larvae are common on any plant with aphids or scale ...
insected.arizona.edu/ladyinfo.htm - 6k -
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German term (edited):
Maikaefer, Marienkaefer
may beetles or may bugs v. lady beetles, ladybugs, or ladybird beetles
And yet another entry for this question:
may beetles or may bugs
Die Gattung der Maikäfer (Melolontha) wird in Mitteleuropa vorwiegend vom Feldmaikäfer (Melolontha melolontha L.) vertreten
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maikäfer
Maikäfer = melolontha = may beetles or may bugs
http://userpage.zedat.fu-berlin.de/~ruther/melolontha.html
Lady beetles, ladybugs, or ladybird beetles
http://www.nysaes.cornell.edu/ent/biocontrol/predators/ladyb...
Die Marienkäfer (Coccinellidae) bilden eine weltweit verbreitete Familie halbkugeliger, flugfähiger Käfer
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marienkäfer
may beetles or may bugs
Die Gattung der Maikäfer (Melolontha) wird in Mitteleuropa vorwiegend vom Feldmaikäfer (Melolontha melolontha L.) vertreten
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maikäfer
Maikäfer = melolontha = may beetles or may bugs
http://userpage.zedat.fu-berlin.de/~ruther/melolontha.html
Lady beetles, ladybugs, or ladybird beetles
http://www.nysaes.cornell.edu/ent/biocontrol/predators/ladyb...
Die Marienkäfer (Coccinellidae) bilden eine weltweit verbreitete Familie halbkugeliger, flugfähiger Käfer
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marienkäfer
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German term (edited):
Maikaefer, Marienkaefer
Marienkäfer (Ladybug) and a Maikäfer (Junebug)
Marienkäfer (Ladybug) and a Maikäfer (Junebug). reading with Berit My best student
and I doing some serious reading. ...
www.if.ufrgs.br/~dahmen/photos.html - 10k - Cached - Similar pages
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Note added at 14 mins (2005-10-19 23:13:30 GMT)
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This is discussed in the web ref below and opinions vary but I would
only add that "Maikäfer" is also know in some areas as a "May beetle" depending on the month in which it geneally appears ...
The Maikaefer (also called Junikaefer in some areas) is a bug, but
> > otherwise not related to the lady bug (Marienkaefer).
http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:Uwo2XH3V8WEJ:omega.cohu...
Synonyms: June beetle (n), May beetle (n), May bug (n). ... European june beetle,
European june bug, june beetle, summer chafer), Maikäfer (cockchafer), ...
www.websters-online-dictionary.org/ definition/english/ju/june+bug.html - 24k - Cached - Similar pages
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Note added at 18 mins (2005-10-19 23:18:14 GMT)
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can aslo be written "May/ June bug" and ..... "ladybug" is also known as (quoting from web ref) "a lady beetle or lady bird beetle or just lady bug as some people
call them. Most species of lady beetles are among our most beneficial ...
insects".ummz.lsa.umich.edu/MES/notes/entnotes6.html - 8k - Cached - Similar pages
and I doing some serious reading. ...
www.if.ufrgs.br/~dahmen/photos.html - 10k - Cached - Similar pages
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Note added at 14 mins (2005-10-19 23:13:30 GMT)
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This is discussed in the web ref below and opinions vary but I would
only add that "Maikäfer" is also know in some areas as a "May beetle" depending on the month in which it geneally appears ...
The Maikaefer (also called Junikaefer in some areas) is a bug, but
> > otherwise not related to the lady bug (Marienkaefer).
http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:Uwo2XH3V8WEJ:omega.cohu...
Synonyms: June beetle (n), May beetle (n), May bug (n). ... European june beetle,
European june bug, june beetle, summer chafer), Maikäfer (cockchafer), ...
www.websters-online-dictionary.org/ definition/english/ju/june+bug.html - 24k - Cached - Similar pages
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Note added at 18 mins (2005-10-19 23:18:14 GMT)
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can aslo be written "May/ June bug" and ..... "ladybug" is also known as (quoting from web ref) "a lady beetle or lady bird beetle or just lady bug as some people
call them. Most species of lady beetles are among our most beneficial ...
insects".ummz.lsa.umich.edu/MES/notes/entnotes6.html - 8k - Cached - Similar pages
Peer comment(s):
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Julia Lipeles
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thx Julia :)
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Lancashireman
: Grade 5 confidence level? (What months do these insects appear in south of the Equator, David?)
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thx Andrew :)
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Roland Grefer
: According to Duden Universalwörterbuch, Muret-Sanders and Bertelsmann, the June bug (Juni-Käfer) is the garden chafer or summer chafer (Brachkäfer, Amphimallon solstitialis) which looks similar to the May beetle (Maikäfer) but is smaller.
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German term (edited):
Maikaefer, Marienkaefer
ladybird BRIT, ladybug AM vs. Jane beetle. May beetle, May bug
Maikaefer:Jane beetle. May beetle, May bug
mARIENKÄFER: ladybird BRIT, ladybug AM
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Note added at 37 mins (2005-10-19 23:36:17 GMT)
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june BEETLE.:)
mARIENKÄFER: ladybird BRIT, ladybug AM
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Note added at 37 mins (2005-10-19 23:36:17 GMT)
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june BEETLE.:)
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German term (edited):
Maikaefer, Marienkaefer
ladybug
this is the name I'm familiar with (in the US), but I'm no expert and don't know the specific differences between the two
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Note added at 49 mins (2005-10-19 23:49:11 GMT)
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I think the problem you are dealing with is the fact that many people in German-speaking countries (or at least in Germany) mistakenly use the two names interchangeably to refer to what is, in fact, a "Marienkäfer" -- see e.g. these mislabeled photos:
http://tinyurl.com/7tx7m (scroll all the way down)
and
http://tinyurl.com/9j2pa (photo identifier right at the top)
A "true" Maikäfer is this rather ugly little beast here:
http://www.kinder-tierlexikon.de/m/maikaefer.htm
To my knowledge, "ladybug" and "ladybird" truly are interchangeable, although there are at least a couple of varieties of this red-spotted bug. There is not, however, any (significant) danger of it being mistakenly called a May beetle, June beetle, June bug, or whatever other aliases the Maikäfer uses in English.
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Note added at 1 hr 23 mins (2005-10-20 00:22:56 GMT)
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Oops, sorry, make that a "red, spotted bug" (the spots are black) ; )
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Note added at 49 mins (2005-10-19 23:49:11 GMT)
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I think the problem you are dealing with is the fact that many people in German-speaking countries (or at least in Germany) mistakenly use the two names interchangeably to refer to what is, in fact, a "Marienkäfer" -- see e.g. these mislabeled photos:
http://tinyurl.com/7tx7m (scroll all the way down)
and
http://tinyurl.com/9j2pa (photo identifier right at the top)
A "true" Maikäfer is this rather ugly little beast here:
http://www.kinder-tierlexikon.de/m/maikaefer.htm
To my knowledge, "ladybug" and "ladybird" truly are interchangeable, although there are at least a couple of varieties of this red-spotted bug. There is not, however, any (significant) danger of it being mistakenly called a May beetle, June beetle, June bug, or whatever other aliases the Maikäfer uses in English.
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Note added at 1 hr 23 mins (2005-10-20 00:22:56 GMT)
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Oops, sorry, make that a "red, spotted bug" (the spots are black) ; )
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