Jan 22, 2006 15:19
18 yrs ago
anglais term

since that it may be that

anglais vers français Sciences sociales Sciences sociales, sociologie, éthique, etc. Symposium
However, some commentators have suggested since that it may that State parties to the UN Convention Against Torture, including Canada have expressed obligation to deny the immunity fo nations that practice torture.

J'ai du mal à saisir cette phrase...
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Discussion

Premium✍️ Jan 22, 2006:
De rien ! Pour moi, c'est un vrai PLAISIR d'aider.
Syllab (X) (asker) Jan 22, 2006:
Un gros MERCI Merci � tous! Vous �tes vraiment extra!
Premium✍️ Jan 22, 2006:
T�f d'accord avec Rita. Ne vous en faites pas pour l'erreur. Je vous ai mise sur la bonne voie. Alors, pr �viter les "que - que", >>depuis lors, certains ont sugg�r� que certains �tats..... AURAIENT exprim�. Comme �a la probabilit� est bien exprim�e! :)
RHELLER Jan 22, 2006:
IMO the terminology here is "not-Pro" but I think the sentence is complicated enough to require more than average language skills to figure it out.
Syllab (X) (asker) Jan 22, 2006:
Typo D�sol�e :-( Vous avez raison

... have suggested since that it may be that State parties to the UN Convention Against Torture...
Syllab (X) (asker) Jan 22, 2006:
phrase pr�c�dente The Courts further adopted the majority's view in Al-Adsani that international law contained no rule requiring that immunity be denied for extraterritorial torture.
Les tribunaux ont �galement adopt� l'opinion de la majorit� dans l'affaire Al-Adsani � l'effet que le droit international ne dispose d'aucune r�gle qui stipule que l'immunit� soit refus�e relativement aux plaintes civiles pour torture extraterritoriale.

Merci de me donner vos suggestions ;-)
Jonathan MacKerron Jan 22, 2006:
unclear sentence as it stands, makes more sense when "that it may that" is left out

Proposed translations

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ci-dessous

je crois que since n'est pas lié à la suite.
...ont suggéré depuis, qu'il se peut que les Etats... aient...
bien sûr, je n'ai mis une virgule après depuis qu'à titre de démo, elle est a supprimer

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Note added at 9 mins (2006-01-22 15:28:53 GMT)
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si c'est bien that it may be that, et non that it may that...
Peer comment(s):

agree Tony M : Yes, Asker has made a typo in the context box that is NOT helping.
6 minutes
thanks, yes, that's how I understood it
agree df49f (X) : oui exactement! have suggested since (i.e. since then), that it may be that States etc..
15 minutes
merci
agree GILLES MEUNIER
1 heure
merci
agree Anne Bohy
2 heures
merci
agree Dr Sue Levy (X)
2 heures
merci
agree Gat
22 heures
merci
agree xuebai
3 jours 5 minutes
merci
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Merci à tous! Cette phrase m'a donné du fil à retordre!"
+1
1 minute

car il se peut que

IMO
Peer comment(s):

agree Krystrad
4 minutes
disagree Tony M : I think you've been as confused as the rest of us by Asker's typo in the context box! Look at the headword...
14 minutes
agree FIROOZEH FARHANG
6 heures
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+1
6 minutes

that that or not that... that, that is the question!

Oh la la, la consonance répétitive m'a fait rire. :-)
Cela dit, pouvez-vous vérifier qu'il n'y a pas une coquille qq part
Possibilités:
1) since that it may BE that State parties... ?
OU
2) since THEN it may BE that State parties.... ?
Revenez-nous après vérification.

Une façon pour l'anglais de dire :
Peer comment(s):

agree sarahl (X) : to be or not to be missing, my take too. ils ont dit depuis etc...
2 minutes
Bien le bonjour et merci !
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28 minutes

ont suggeré depuis que peut-être les parties

My suggestion w/commas and perhaps: some commentators have suggested since, that perhaps the State parties to the UN convention...., including Canada, have expressed the obligation..... (cette phrase est vraiment difficile)

ont suggeré depuis que peut-être les parties...ont exprimé
qui'ils doivent/il faut refuser

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Note added at 1 hr (2006-01-22 16:35:49 GMT)
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je m'excuse...I am just trying to help but I probably should have used the subjunctive - sorry
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