Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
los tiempos del Foro con los tiempos de los encuentros, de la lucha y del proces
English translation:
the Forum schedules with the time available for meetings, struggle and processes
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Andrea Quintana
Mar 7, 2006 16:40
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Spanish term
los tiempos del Foro con los tiempos de los encuentros, de la lucha y del proces
Spanish to English
Social Sciences
Government / Politics
Para xxx está a debate la **necesaria combinación de los tiempos del Foro con los tiempos de los encuentros, de la lucha y del proceso.**
I'm having trouble with about every aspect of this sentence, so all the help you can give will be much appreciated. The "Foro" refers to the World Social Forum. The lines that come before this sentence are:
Las ideas de cambio que el Foro incuba vienen, afirmó, de una convergencia incluyente, solidaria e igualitaria. Propuso la idea del Foro como una especie de "Feria de las Alternativas".
If you already think you know what this means, by all means, post a response, but if you want more context, you can read below for my personal assessment of what's going on here. But I could be totally off base, so take it with a grain of salt. Thanks!
My best lead is that the speaker is referring to the simultaneity of the World Social Forum and the World Economic Forum, "encuentros" referring to the latter, but there is absolutely no mention of the WEF prior to this in the article, and I'm not sure why the speaker would refer to one as "foro" and the other as "encuentros." Plus, I wouldn't know how "lucha" and "proceso" fit in. But, it does fit in with the theory that the WSF happens at the same time as the WEF to provide alternatives.
My only other lead is that "encuentros" are happening throughout the entire process of the Forum, but this seems like a fairly pedestrian thing to say, and once again, I don't see how "lucha" and "proceso" fit in.
Thanks for your help!
I'm having trouble with about every aspect of this sentence, so all the help you can give will be much appreciated. The "Foro" refers to the World Social Forum. The lines that come before this sentence are:
Las ideas de cambio que el Foro incuba vienen, afirmó, de una convergencia incluyente, solidaria e igualitaria. Propuso la idea del Foro como una especie de "Feria de las Alternativas".
If you already think you know what this means, by all means, post a response, but if you want more context, you can read below for my personal assessment of what's going on here. But I could be totally off base, so take it with a grain of salt. Thanks!
My best lead is that the speaker is referring to the simultaneity of the World Social Forum and the World Economic Forum, "encuentros" referring to the latter, but there is absolutely no mention of the WEF prior to this in the article, and I'm not sure why the speaker would refer to one as "foro" and the other as "encuentros." Plus, I wouldn't know how "lucha" and "proceso" fit in. But, it does fit in with the theory that the WSF happens at the same time as the WEF to provide alternatives.
My only other lead is that "encuentros" are happening throughout the entire process of the Forum, but this seems like a fairly pedestrian thing to say, and once again, I don't see how "lucha" and "proceso" fit in.
Thanks for your help!
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Andrea Quintana
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the Forum schedules with the time available for meetings, struggle and processes
The first "tiempos" is a bit tricky. I figured out the meaning thanks to the following info:
"El Foro atraviesa su crisis de adolescencia", dijo esa única mujer,
'Irene León, del Foro Social de las Américas realizado en Quito en 2004, y que ahora está en Caracas organizando la segunda edición.
[...] León [...] afirmó que lo más importante es entender que debe haber tiempo para las luchas, para los encuentros y para los procesos. "La clave está en saberlos combinar". '
(http://www.ipsterraviva.net/tv/fsm2006/viewstory.asp?idnews=...
"El Foro atraviesa su crisis de adolescencia", dijo esa única mujer,
'Irene León, del Foro Social de las Américas realizado en Quito en 2004, y que ahora está en Caracas organizando la segunda edición.
[...] León [...] afirmó que lo más importante es entender que debe haber tiempo para las luchas, para los encuentros y para los procesos. "La clave está en saberlos combinar". '
(http://www.ipsterraviva.net/tv/fsm2006/viewstory.asp?idnews=...
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Andrea, thanks for the research. You are in fact right on here. Good work!"
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Laura Iglesias
Spain
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Forum days with meeting/encounter days, of fight and process
the combination of ... and of...
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the necessity of combining the struggle... (see rest below)
Here is my version of the sentence based on the information given... For xxx, the necessity of combining the struggle and the process with forums and meetings, is up for debate...
or the need to combine the struggle/fight .... is debatable
you could also use times for forums and meetings, but I don't think it's necessary...
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Note added at 43 mins (2006-03-07 17:23:51 GMT)
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I think you could also use "gatherings" for encuentros instead of meetings...
or the need to combine the struggle/fight .... is debatable
you could also use times for forums and meetings, but I don't think it's necessary...
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Note added at 43 mins (2006-03-07 17:23:51 GMT)
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I think you could also use "gatherings" for encuentros instead of meetings...
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Bernhard Wolf
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**the need to combine holding the Forum at the (same) time we have our encounters, ...(see below)
**the need to combine holding the Forum at the (same) time we have our encounters(skirmishes), the struggle and the process.**
What I interpret, reading your comments and the paragraph, is that the speaker is asking if:, they? should be debating if it is necessary to have the forum and their (hostile)encounters, the struggle and the process(they are in), at the same time. Since the Forum is a “Feria de Alternativas”
I read “encuentros”=enfrentamientos.
Hope this gives you some other ideas.
What I interpret, reading your comments and the paragraph, is that the speaker is asking if:, they? should be debating if it is necessary to have the forum and their (hostile)encounters, the struggle and the process(they are in), at the same time. Since the Forum is a “Feria de Alternativas”
I read “encuentros”=enfrentamientos.
Hope this gives you some other ideas.
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the need for the Forum schedule and the time for the meetings, struggle and process to fit together
Hope this helps
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