estar sumido en

English translation: find themselves

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Spanish term or phrase:estar sumido en
English translation:find themselves
Entered by: Rosario Meriles

23:22 Feb 24, 2013
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Education / Pedagogy
Spanish term or phrase: estar sumido en
This term comes from a text about secondary rural education. I'd like to find an English word conveying the exact meaning of "sumido en".



"Debido a las condiciones de pobreza y marginación en los que están sumidos estos chicos y sus familias".

Could you help me please? Thank you
Rosario Meriles
Argentina
Local time: 04:34
find themselves
Explanation:
"immersed" and "mired" could be seen as overly negative in this context, so it may be better to go with a more neutral translation...

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Note added at 1 hr (2013-02-25 01:20:33 GMT)
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Re Ray's suggestion, "find themselves trapped in" is certainly an option, but I would still go for a more positive tone than "trapped" alone.
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Edward Tully
Local time: 09:34
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thanks
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Summary of answers provided
4 +1in which these ... are immersed in ...
Billh
4 +1find themselves
Edward Tully
4mired in
Anthony Ottey
4are trapped
Ray Ables


  

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18 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
mired in


Explanation:
Ejemplo:

Mired in poverty


    Reference: http://www.wordreference.com/es/en/translation.asp?spen=sumi...
Anthony Ottey
United States
Local time: 03:34
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in SpanishSpanish
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35 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
in which these ... are immersed in ...


Explanation:
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Billh
Local time: 08:34
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 28

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agree  Guadalupe Lynch
3 hrs
  -> Thanks Guadalupe
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are trapped


Explanation:
http://buscon.rae.es/drae/?type=3&val=cultura&val_aux=&orige...

I believe the meaning reflects being stuck or trapped. Sure escape is theoretically possible... though not likely.

Mired is the best of the choices I see although it sounds a bit archaic at least in the US. I do not think immersed is negative at all, actually it is usually used for positive experiences such as foreign language acquisition. "Find themselves" sounds the best out of the 3 other choices, but it does not convey the lack of upward mobility that so many experience.

http://www.amazon.com/Trapped-Poverty-Chronic-Remote-Tribal/...

Ray Ables
United States
Local time: 02:34
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 12
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58 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
find themselves


Explanation:
"immersed" and "mired" could be seen as overly negative in this context, so it may be better to go with a more neutral translation...

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Note added at 1 hr (2013-02-25 01:20:33 GMT)
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Re Ray's suggestion, "find themselves trapped in" is certainly an option, but I would still go for a more positive tone than "trapped" alone.

Edward Tully
Local time: 09:34
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 282
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thanks

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  teresa quimper
0 min
  -> many thanks Teresa! ;-)
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