Glossary entry (derived from question below)
español term or phrase:
una superficie de 1,623-61-17.503 hectáreas
inglés translation:
an area of 1,623.6117503 hectares / 1,623 hectares and 6,711.503 square metres
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Charles Davis
Sep 26, 2013 12:40
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español term
una superficie de 1,623-61-17.503 hectáreas
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This is not really a translation issue, but I wasn't sure who else could help!
This is from a land registry certificate in Mexico to state the size of a parcel of land which then also goes on to describe its borders with other parcels of land in metres of common border.
Has anybody seen numbers like this in relation to measurement of land area?
I also have:
6-34-96.56 HA, SEIS HECTAREAS, TREINTA Y CUATRO AREAS, NOVENTA Y SEIS PUNTO CINCUENTA Y SEIS CENTIAREAS.
I have other similar examples too....
As I don't understand the measurement system, I'm not sure whether the comma and point need to changed and whether any "translation" of the number need be done.
Can anybody explain this please?
Thank you.
This is from a land registry certificate in Mexico to state the size of a parcel of land which then also goes on to describe its borders with other parcels of land in metres of common border.
Has anybody seen numbers like this in relation to measurement of land area?
I also have:
6-34-96.56 HA, SEIS HECTAREAS, TREINTA Y CUATRO AREAS, NOVENTA Y SEIS PUNTO CINCUENTA Y SEIS CENTIAREAS.
I have other similar examples too....
As I don't understand the measurement system, I'm not sure whether the comma and point need to changed and whether any "translation" of the number need be done.
Can anybody explain this please?
Thank you.
Proposed translations
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4 +2 | an area of 1,623 hectares and 6,711.503 square metres / 1,623.6117503 ha | Charles Davis |
4 | an 1.623-61-17.503 ha. area | ROLANDO SALAZAR |
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Oct 1, 2013 10:28: Charles Davis Created KOG entry
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an area of 1,623 hectares and 6,711.503 square metres / 1,623.6117503 ha
Hi Brian,
As for explaining what the figures mean, your second example helps. You have three numbers, separated by hyphens. They correspond respectively to hectares, ares and centiares. An are is 100 square metres, a hectare is a hundred ares (10000 m2) and a centiare is a hundredth of an are (a square metre).
In Mexico, as in the US and the UK, the comma is a thousands separator and the decimal mark is the point.
So in the example in the question, it means an area of:
1,623 hectares (1623 x 10000 = 16,230,000 m2)
plus 61 ares (61 x 100 = 6100 m2)
plus 17.503 centiares (17.503 m2)
Add them together and you get
16,236,117.503 m2
Or in other words
16,236,117 square metres and 5030 square centimetres (since there are 10000 cm2 in a m2).
I'm not sure what the conventions are when translating a text where these numbers are used. Maybe it might be best to leave the numbers and add a note to them to explain what they mean. You could express it as a number of hectares, which would be
1,623.6117503 ha
Or do it all as hectares and square metres:
1,623 hectares and 6,711.503 square metres.
Then of course there are online converters if you want it as acres or as square feet.
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Note added at 31 mins (2013-09-26 13:12:45 GMT)
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SORRY: miskeyed the figures: in the first part of my answer it should be
1,623 hectares and 6,117.503 square metres, NOT
1,623 hectares and 6,711.503 square metres
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Note added at 38 mins (2013-09-26 13:19:02 GMT)
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In fact, if you want to give an equivalent in acres (which is standard for land measurement in the US and the UK), it would be
4012ac 1393.3ft²
I used:
http://www.metric-conversions.org/area/hectares-to-acres.htm
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Note added at 20 hrs (2013-09-27 09:26:37 GMT)
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OK, Brian. That seems a sensible solution. The single figure in hectares is simple and straightforward and everyone will understand it. Hectares are familiar units everywhere. Leaving it as it is without comment doesn't seem a good option: if you and I were confused, others will be too.
As for explaining what the figures mean, your second example helps. You have three numbers, separated by hyphens. They correspond respectively to hectares, ares and centiares. An are is 100 square metres, a hectare is a hundred ares (10000 m2) and a centiare is a hundredth of an are (a square metre).
In Mexico, as in the US and the UK, the comma is a thousands separator and the decimal mark is the point.
So in the example in the question, it means an area of:
1,623 hectares (1623 x 10000 = 16,230,000 m2)
plus 61 ares (61 x 100 = 6100 m2)
plus 17.503 centiares (17.503 m2)
Add them together and you get
16,236,117.503 m2
Or in other words
16,236,117 square metres and 5030 square centimetres (since there are 10000 cm2 in a m2).
I'm not sure what the conventions are when translating a text where these numbers are used. Maybe it might be best to leave the numbers and add a note to them to explain what they mean. You could express it as a number of hectares, which would be
1,623.6117503 ha
Or do it all as hectares and square metres:
1,623 hectares and 6,711.503 square metres.
Then of course there are online converters if you want it as acres or as square feet.
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Note added at 31 mins (2013-09-26 13:12:45 GMT)
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SORRY: miskeyed the figures: in the first part of my answer it should be
1,623 hectares and 6,117.503 square metres, NOT
1,623 hectares and 6,711.503 square metres
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Note added at 38 mins (2013-09-26 13:19:02 GMT)
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In fact, if you want to give an equivalent in acres (which is standard for land measurement in the US and the UK), it would be
4012ac 1393.3ft²
I used:
http://www.metric-conversions.org/area/hectares-to-acres.htm
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Note added at 20 hrs (2013-09-27 09:26:37 GMT)
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OK, Brian. That seems a sensible solution. The single figure in hectares is simple and straightforward and everyone will understand it. Hectares are familiar units everywhere. Leaving it as it is without comment doesn't seem a good option: if you and I were confused, others will be too.
Note from asker:
Thanks Charles. Seemed strange to write the figures that way, never seen it done like that before. Anyway, given that the numbers are in this format throughout the document and the certificates, I have decided to leave them in that format but additionally show the figure with the 7 decimal places the first time by way of explanation. |
Peer comment(s):
agree |
neilmac
: Around here they still use "hanegada / fanegada ", which is even more confusing...
2 horas
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Cheers, Neil :) Weights and measures cause endless trouble. First you have to work out what they are, and then you have to get your sums right.
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agree |
Jorge Merino
: Agree with the last figure, total should be 1,623.6117503 hectares
3 horas
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That's probably the neatest solution: just a number of hectares. It's just that seven decimal places looks a little "exagerado" :) Thanks, Jorge!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
9 horas
an 1.623-61-17.503 ha. area
An adequate indication
Discussion
In conclusion I will leave the numbers as they are stated on the certificate in hectares and their various subdivisions, without a conversion to acres or some other imperial measure, as I think that would be more confusing given that each one comes with a diagram showing the borders in metres!
Thanks again.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_mark#Hindu.E2.80.93Arab...
1 ha = 100 a
1 a = hectare's fractions
1 ca = are's fractions
1,623-61-17.503 hectáreas would be:
1623 ha = 16230000 m^2
61 a = 6100 m^2
17,503 ca = 17,503 m^2
Now you sum this up and you have very accurate result in m^2.
Supongo que son tres tierras, no?
1ª 6 ha.
2ª 34 ha.
3ª 96,56 ha.
Está bastante enrevesado....