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Nov 13, 2018 16:36
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Spanish term

Subrrogada

Spanish to English Other Medical: Health Care
Hello,

The translation concerns a female patient with CKD.

I am assuming that she is going to attend a different clinic to the one she usually does, but "subrogated/subrogation" doesn't seem to be suitable here.


Subrrogada de hemodiálisis en Angeles Polanca lunes, miércoles y viernes.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Proposed translations (English)
4 +3 referral
4 different/alternative
4 clinic
4 clinic
Change log

Nov 13, 2018 17:01: philgoddard changed "Field" from "Medical" to "Other" , "Field (write-in)" from "hemodialysis services" to "(none)"

Discussion

Eileen Brophy Nov 13, 2018:
subrogar(Del lat. subrogare.)
v. tr. y prnl. DERECHO Poner a una persona o una cosa en lugar de otra, en una relación jurídica se subrogó en el contrato de su hermano. So I understand it as an alternative or a substitute clinic
Chema Nieto Castañón Nov 13, 2018:
El original se refiere a que la paciente realiza la hemodialisis en un centro que no es su hospital habitual o de referencia pero a donde ha sido remitida por éste.
Esto es, se trata de un centro alternativo asociado a su centro de referencia para la realización en este caso de tratamientos de hemodiálisis.

por fin se autorizó que en Lázaro Cárdenas se cuente con un Nefrólogo, por lo que en próximos días estará llegando al municipio para atender a los pacientes con problemas del riñón, con lo cual se reforzarán las atenciones que están recibiendo en la clínica subrogada de Hemodiálisis que funciona en un negocio particular.
http://www.cambiodemichoacan.com.mx/nota-226759


Como definición, por si sirve para orientar la traducción, diría algo así como
Clínica o centro contratado por el hospital de referencia del paciente para la realización de determinados procedimientos.
philgoddard Nov 13, 2018:
The answer is here - it's something like 'servicio subrogado de hemodiálisis Angeles, Polanco'. Polanco is a district.
http://www.jornada.com.mx/2010/01/03/sociedad/026n1soc
But I'm still not sure what subrogado means in this context. Can any Mexican residents help?
philgoddard Nov 13, 2018:
Context Angeles Polanco (not Polanca) appears to be a clinic in Mexico City. And subrrogada is a mistake for subrogada. I'm not sure what it means, though.

Proposed translations

+3
4 hrs
Selected

referral

"Referral to Angeles Polanca hospital/clinic for haemodialysis.
As far as I can make out, Polanca is the locality and a hospital or clinic is called (los) Angeles)

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Note added at 4 hrs (2018-11-13 21:11:59 GMT)
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Vascular access procedure selection for the elderly patient on ...
https://vascularnews.com/vascular-access-procedure-selection...
Aug 19, 2015 - ... al found that the combination of three factors—the Karnofsky Performance Score, body mass index, and late referral for haemodialysis—were ...

Karnofsky Performance Score, body mass index, and late referral for haemodialysis

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Note added at 4 hrs (2018-11-13 21:12:49 GMT)
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3289895/
by JA Hubacek - ‎2012 - ‎Cited by 32 - ‎Related articlesJul 25, 2011 - Although the cases came from medical centres, the nature of ESRD (requiring referral for haemodialysis or transplantation) means that the ...
Peer comment(s):
agree Chema Nieto Castañón : Para mí esta es la idea más próxima al sentido original
11 hrs
En el contexto dado, me parece que funciona como encabezado...
agree MollyRose
1 day 18 hrs
agree Amy Merrill
2 days 1 hr
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12 mins

different/alternative

Subrogate means substitution, but it does not sound right in this context either.
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1 hr

clinic

See the discussion entries.
Chema has provided a very helpful explanation of "subrogado", meaning a clinic to which a hospital farms out its patients. However, I wouldn't attempt a close translation, as it would just make things too complicated. "Clinic" should be enough.
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3 hrs

clinic

Like Paul said, "clinic" would be the simplest translation and in this case simple is the best solution in my opinion. I have never heard "subrogate" or "subrogate" in the context of turfing a patient to another clinic (dialysis or otherwise) in English, so you are right to avoid a direct translation.

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Note added at 3 hrs (2018-11-13 20:06:10 GMT)
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Correction: Like Phil said. Sorry, Phill! Still waking up :)
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