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Feb 2, 2021 21:02
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French term

paramètres numériques gaussiens

French to English Medical Mathematics & Statistics Orthopedics
Hi,
The sentence is:
"les paramètres numériques gaussiens ont été décrits en termes de moyenne et de déviation standard et les paramètres numérique non gaussiens en termes de médiane et d'intervalle interquartiles"

In my research I only found 2 hits with "Gaussian numerical parameters" and "non-Gaussian numerical parameters" and both textes seemed to be translations.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Joanna
Proposed translations (English)
3 parameters of a/the Gaussian
4 -1 numerical gaussian parameters
2 Gaussian function parameters
4 -2 parameters showing a normal distribution / a Gaussian distribution

Discussion

Daryo Feb 7, 2021:
the real problem with this text is not about whether using "normal" or "Gaussian" distribution - for the intended audience it makes no difference.

The not so small "nuance of meaning" that is fact a key element of this specific text is that the "parameters" are NOT the parameters of a Gaussian / normal distribution, but "parameters" that were measured as part of a study of some orthopedic device i.e. "parameters" related to the use / benefits from some orthopedic device.

It's the statistical distribution of values of numerical (and only numerical) parameters from this study that shows a "normal distribution", or not.

@joanna menda:
Has this "professor who teaches statistics" seen the whole ST? or you asked him only about "Gaussian vs normal distribution" in general? If you can contact the author, it would be the best bet as far as explaining the meaning of the whole sentence is concerned. That would be definitely more relevant than any translation "by ghits" ... or by using definitions without bothering with the actual text.
Francois Boye Feb 7, 2021:
@ Joanna

I gave below the same answer
joanna menda (asker) Feb 7, 2021:
Hi everyone, I just contacted a professor who teaches statistics and according to him "Gaussian and normal distribution mean the exact same thing. Gauss created it for mathematics, and it was called the Gaussian distribution for years but now its just called normal distribution for simplicity. Going back to the vocabulary of statistics, "parameters" has a slightly different meaning. If a data set is a normal distribution, it is parametric---meaning it can follow the statistical parameters allowed in normal distribution." So he suggests I simply use "Gaussian distribution" or "Normal distribution." I will ask for confirmation from the author and let you know.
SafeTex Feb 7, 2021:
@Daryo So one week after agreeing with an answer that scores ZERO ghits for what is after all, an established mathematical field, in other words NOBODY uses that term, not even foreign speakers of English, you retract your agree and come out with this incomprenhensible diatribe to suggest something that just looks like it a rework of other answers posted a week ago.
Daryo Feb 7, 2021:
@joanna menda there is a "detail" in this specific ST to take into account.

"paramètres numériques gaussiens!" in this ST are NOT the parameters of some hypothetical "normal / Gaussian distribution" - it's NOT about one of the theoretical models of statistical distribution.

What "paramètres numériques gaussiens / paramètres numérique non gaussiens" means in this ST is that this study was done evaluating some parameters (in relation to some orthopedic device?), some of these parameters being "numerical" (as opposed to "descriptive" / "qualitative" etc) and the variation of some of these numerical parameters conformed to a Gaussian / normal statistical distribution, while the variation of some other of these "numerical parameters" did not.
Francois Boye Feb 3, 2021:
There is basically no difference between the two; the Gaussian and the normal distribution are the two names of the same thing. The normal distribution is called Gaussian distribution because the person who discovered it was Carl Friedrich Gauss.
joanna menda (asker) Feb 3, 2021:
Hello everyone, thanks for all the suggestions. I have also found "parameters of a normal distribution" and "parameters of a non normal distribution" and was wondering if this was not more common in US English than the use of "Gaussian" and "non-Gaussian"?

Proposed translations

38 mins

parameters of a/the Gaussian

I would skip 'numerical'.
E.g. parameters of the Gaussian (case) were the mean and standard deviation and in the non-Gaussian case they were the median and the interquartile intervals.
Something like that. Mean and SD are parameters of the Gaussian distribution.
Example sentence:

The parameter μ {\displaystyle \mu } \mu is the mean or expectation of the distribution (and also its median and mode), while the parameter σ {\displaystyle \sigma } \sigma is its standard deviation.[1] The variance of the distribution is σ 2 {\display

Reference:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_distribution

Peer comment(s):
neutral Daryo : in fact in this text there is an additional twist.
2 hrs
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2 hrs

Gaussian function parameters

Hello

this is a standard term (see ghits) and I think it may be what we need but I'm hopeless at maths

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In mathematics, a Gaussian function, often simply referred to as a Gaussian, is a function of the form [source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaussian_function]

So after further research, as i'm not good at maths, unlike Daryo who is good at absolutely everything 😏, this answer is fine and the closest to the French.


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Note added at 4 hrs (2021-02-03 01:21:57 GMT)
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In mathematics, a Gaussian function, often simply referred to as a Gaussian, is a function of the form [source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaussian_function]

So after further research, this answer is definately right and Daryo has disagreed yet again with a good answer but that's par for the course for him alas.

Reference:

https://www.wikizero.com/en/Gaussian_function

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Gaussian-function-the-effect-of-parameters-a-b-c-and-d-on-the-shapes_fig1_277716432

Peer comment(s):
disagree Daryo : ghits won't compensate "I'm hopeless at maths"/translating science doesn't work that way/ghits are surely going to help make the difference between "parameters OF a Gaussian function" and a parameter which statistical distribution IS a Gaussian function??
1 hr
Disagreeing with right answers is not the way it works either. See notes
agree philgoddard : I'm not a mathematician, and I have no idea whether you're right or wrong, but I'm going to express an opinion anyway. Sounds like someone else I know :-) And I would never disagree with an answer that has a confidence level of 2.
16 hrs
Thanks Philgoddard
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46 mins

numerical gaussian parameters

Numerical gaussian parameters are the parameters of a gaussian function

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaussian_function

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Note added at 5 days (2021-02-07 21:53:06 GMT)
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you can also say: "numerical parameters of a gaussian function"
Peer comment(s):
disagree Daryo : in fact in this text there is an additional twist, that you should spot if you read the whole text quoted.
2 hrs
which one? This is math, not bla bla bla!//you haven't answered my question?
neutral SafeTex : I try not to disagree when I have an answer up but "numerical gaussian parameters" gets 0 ghits.I think that all the answers have the same idea but this is not the standard term at all.
1 day 1 hr
Have you been taught the theory of probability?
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4 days

parameters showing a normal distribution / a Gaussian distribution

paramètres numériques gaussiens
=>
parameters showing a normal distribution / a Gaussian distribution

paramètres numérique non gaussiens
=>
parameters not showing a normal distribution / a Gaussian distribution


in this specific text, it's about parametres related to some orthopedic device that vary according a normal / Gaussian distribution from one measurement to another, or not.

IOW it's NOT about "the parameters of a Gaussian function" it's about parameters (measured while studying some orthopedic device?), some of which are distributed according a normal / Gaussian distribution, and some are not.

So for a "parameter" which varies according a "Gaussian / normal" distribution, the variations of that parameter will be expressed by giving the average value and the standard deviation (of all measurements of that parameter).

While for a "parameter" that is not distributed according a "Gaussian / normal" distribution,the variations of that parameter will be shown by giving the median value and the interquartile values (of all measurements of that parameter).


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Oops .. it's better to include "numerical" as there are most probably some other "parameters" of this study of some orthopedic device that are not of the "numerical" type.

"les paramètres numériques gaussiens ont été décrits en termes de moyenne et de déviation standard et les paramètres numérique non gaussiens en termes de médiane et d'intervalle interquartiles"
=>
"Numerical parameters showing a normal distribution (/ a Gaussian distribution) have been described by giving their average values and standard deviations, while

numerical parameters not showing a normal distribution (/ a Gaussian distribution) have been described by giving their median and interquartile values"





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Note added at 4 days (2021-02-07 09:58:14 GMT)
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"Gaussian numerical parameters" is in fact right, but too much abbreviated - could be all too easily misunderstood.

It was supposed to mean

"numerical parameters whose variations follow a Gaussian distribution"

which is exactly the right meaning in this text,

BUT it could be also missinterpred as

"the numerical parameters OF a Gaussian distribution"

which would be totally wrong for this ST.

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or

numerical parameters presenting a Gaussian distribution (of their variations)
Peer comment(s):
disagree SafeTex : INcompréhensible diatribe to justify an answer too closely based on previous ones for my liking
38 mins
"Incompréhensible"? for you maybe ... there might be some same words used, but the difference that you can't see is significant - CRUCIAL // Well, given that you said yourself of yourself "I'm hopeless at maths" would that be surprising???
disagree Francois Boye : the parameters are part of the normal/gaussian distribution
5 hrs
could you for a change pay more attention to the actual text to translate (i.e the whole sentence / paragraph), and not only to definitions of each individual word separately; there is this thing called "context" and also "internal consistency of a text"!
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