Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
the characters are as smart as a viewer is about them
Spanish translation:
los personajes tienen un conocimiento y percepción de sí mismos equivalente al del espectador
Added to glossary by
Antonio Berbel Garcia
Sep 22, 2017 10:07
6 yrs ago
English term
the characters are as smart as a viewer is about them
Homework / test
English to Spanish
Art/Literary
Cinema, Film, TV, Drama
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CREO QUE MI TRADUCCION NO ES CORRECTA o al menos me suena mal.
Aunque sea brevemente, se ven a ellos mismos con el mismo grado de inteligencia, autocrítica, escepticismo o gracia que va a llevar al espectador a entenderlos. ¿?
Some of the most extraordinary moments in Faces are the ones where characters comment on their own feelings and behavior, turn on their own ideas, and reflect on or make jokes about their own foolishness, limitations, and self-deceits. When Richard and Freddie acknowledge to each other how some of the stories of their youth “never happened,” when McCarthy reflects on the emptiness of his life and marriage, when Florence talks about her disappointment with her husband Louie, when Maria admits that she is a “silly goose,” THE CHARACTERS ARE MOMENTARILY AS SMART AND PERCEPTIVE ABOUT THEMSELVES AS A VIEWER IS ABOUT THEM. However briefly, they are seeing themselves with the same degree of intelligence, self-criticism, skepticism, or amusement that a viewer brings to an understanding of them. The performed self is superficial in a profound way. Characters are not their inner states—their thoughts, feelings, intentions, goals, motives, and desires (deep, enduring, simple, unitary qualities that stand still), but their visible and audible expressions of themselves—their words, movements, gestures, tones of voice, facial expressions (floating, shifting, complex, multivalent attributes that change beat by beat). The very length and sprawl of Cassavetes’ scenes, the aspects of his presentation that were criticized as longueurs by the initial reviewers of Faces, Husbands, A Woman Under the Influence, The Killing of a Chinese Bookie, and Opening Night, were Cassavetes’ attempt to put the viewer in the same present-tense, moment-by-moment relationship with experience that his characters inhabit.
Aunque sea brevemente, se ven a ellos mismos con el mismo grado de inteligencia, autocrítica, escepticismo o gracia que va a llevar al espectador a entenderlos. ¿?
Some of the most extraordinary moments in Faces are the ones where characters comment on their own feelings and behavior, turn on their own ideas, and reflect on or make jokes about their own foolishness, limitations, and self-deceits. When Richard and Freddie acknowledge to each other how some of the stories of their youth “never happened,” when McCarthy reflects on the emptiness of his life and marriage, when Florence talks about her disappointment with her husband Louie, when Maria admits that she is a “silly goose,” THE CHARACTERS ARE MOMENTARILY AS SMART AND PERCEPTIVE ABOUT THEMSELVES AS A VIEWER IS ABOUT THEM. However briefly, they are seeing themselves with the same degree of intelligence, self-criticism, skepticism, or amusement that a viewer brings to an understanding of them. The performed self is superficial in a profound way. Characters are not their inner states—their thoughts, feelings, intentions, goals, motives, and desires (deep, enduring, simple, unitary qualities that stand still), but their visible and audible expressions of themselves—their words, movements, gestures, tones of voice, facial expressions (floating, shifting, complex, multivalent attributes that change beat by beat). The very length and sprawl of Cassavetes’ scenes, the aspects of his presentation that were criticized as longueurs by the initial reviewers of Faces, Husbands, A Woman Under the Influence, The Killing of a Chinese Bookie, and Opening Night, were Cassavetes’ attempt to put the viewer in the same present-tense, moment-by-moment relationship with experience that his characters inhabit.
Proposed translations
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3 +1 | los personajes tienen un conocimiento y percepción de sí mismos equivalente al del espectador | Chema Nieto Castañón |
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los personajes tienen un conocimiento y percepción de sí mismos equivalente al del espectador
La clave está en about themselves;
La idea (creo) es que los personajes, momentáneamente, se conocen y perciben con el mismo grado de realidad con que cualquier espectador los conoce y percibe; por un momento, los personajes tienen un conocimiento y percepción de sí mismos equivalente al del espectador.
El fraseo no es fácil, especialmente si intentas ser excesivamente literal en la construcción de la frase...
La idea (creo) es que los personajes, momentáneamente, se conocen y perciben con el mismo grado de realidad con que cualquier espectador los conoce y percibe; por un momento, los personajes tienen un conocimiento y percepción de sí mismos equivalente al del espectador.
El fraseo no es fácil, especialmente si intentas ser excesivamente literal en la construcción de la frase...
Peer comment(s):
agree |
JohnMcDove
: Sí, en vez de "inteligencia" usaría "comprensión" o "capacidad de comprensión", pero por lo demás, y lo de la "discussion", con esto y un bizcocho... hasta mañana a las ocho. :-)
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Discussion
Leo el original brings to an understanding como (el mismo nivel de inteligencia o autocrítica (...)) que lleva al espectador a comprenderlos.