Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
bord approchant
English translation:
home tack, winning tack, layline,
Added to glossary by
Kimberly De Haan
Nov 19, 2010 10:32
13 yrs ago
French term
bord approchant
French to English
Other
Ships, Sailing, Maritime
From a sailing video game.
« On va maintenant préparer le virement de bord proprement dit : faire passer de l’autre bord les écoutes de la voile d’avant. On sera mieux sur l’autre bord à cause de la mer, en plus on sera sur le **bord approchant** ! »
Many thanks
« On va maintenant préparer le virement de bord proprement dit : faire passer de l’autre bord les écoutes de la voile d’avant. On sera mieux sur l’autre bord à cause de la mer, en plus on sera sur le **bord approchant** ! »
Many thanks
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 +2 | home tack, winning tack, layline, |
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
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| 4 | heading in the right direction |
Graham macLachlan
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| 3 | tack closest to the destination |
Clive Phillips
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Proposed translations
+2
3 hrs
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
Native in English
Specializes in field
Psychologist, Court-certified legal
Native in: English 
Works in: French to English
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home tack, winning tack, layline,
1) This term is often used to describe a choice of tack which puts the boat on the course closest to the orthodromic or great-circle line : in other words a straight line between two points, which in an ocean race for example can put you in the lead in the score tables, although various weather systems representing an obstacle mean that you are not necessarily likely to make it across the finish line in pole position! Here the skipper describes having made this choice for the feel good factor!
http://www.seasailsurf.com/seasailsurf/actu/3772-corentin-do...
« Un moment j’ai fait un empannage uniquement psychologique, juste pour reprendre la tête au classement du lendemain matin, sur le bord approchant. Ensuite, j’ai pris l’ouest car je me doutais que le vent allait rentrer de nord-est et ça a marché... »
2) If in reference to a line to a race mark, such as a buoy, then this may in fact be in the sense of « layline ».
http://www.nautisme.ch/fileadmin/documents/nautismeromand.ch...
“Au près : Après avoir appliqué notre méthode de départ et
exploité notre schéma tactique, il s’agit d’aborder
correctement le passage de la première marque.
Cette approche prend toute son importance dès le
dernier quart du bord de près. Il est alors temps de
déterminer (visualiser) les laylines.
Les laylines : Par définition, les laylines sont deux lignes fictives
se rejoignant sur la bouée au vent et représentant
les limites du parcours (figure 1). Ces lignes virtuelles
varient et évoluent en fonction d’une foule de
paramètres combinés:
•Les performances du bateau selon les conditions
du moment
•La force du vent
•La direction du vent
•La force du courant
•La direction du courant
•Les dévents3
http://www.uiowa.edu/~sail/skills/racing_basics/chap5.shtml
Fuller context woudl help, but some of us appear to concur that this has the idea of being on a course which represents the most direct route (shortest distance as the crow flies) to a particular destination, race mark or finishing line.
Quite like "winning tack" as suggested already!
http://www.seasailsurf.com/seasailsurf/actu/3772-corentin-do...
« Un moment j’ai fait un empannage uniquement psychologique, juste pour reprendre la tête au classement du lendemain matin, sur le bord approchant. Ensuite, j’ai pris l’ouest car je me doutais que le vent allait rentrer de nord-est et ça a marché... »
2) If in reference to a line to a race mark, such as a buoy, then this may in fact be in the sense of « layline ».
http://www.nautisme.ch/fileadmin/documents/nautismeromand.ch...
“Au près : Après avoir appliqué notre méthode de départ et
exploité notre schéma tactique, il s’agit d’aborder
correctement le passage de la première marque.
Cette approche prend toute son importance dès le
dernier quart du bord de près. Il est alors temps de
déterminer (visualiser) les laylines.
Les laylines : Par définition, les laylines sont deux lignes fictives
se rejoignant sur la bouée au vent et représentant
les limites du parcours (figure 1). Ces lignes virtuelles
varient et évoluent en fonction d’une foule de
paramètres combinés:
•Les performances du bateau selon les conditions
du moment
•La force du vent
•La direction du vent
•La force du courant
•La direction du courant
•Les dévents3
http://www.uiowa.edu/~sail/skills/racing_basics/chap5.shtml
Fuller context woudl help, but some of us appear to concur that this has the idea of being on a course which represents the most direct route (shortest distance as the crow flies) to a particular destination, race mark or finishing line.
Quite like "winning tack" as suggested already!
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Graham macLachlan
: those are worthy suggestions
29 mins
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| agree |
Miranda Joubioux (X)
18 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Your explanations were very helpful. Thank you"
35 mins
heading in the right direction
we'll be better on the other tack... and we'll also be on the right track for our destination
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Note added at 1 heure (2010-11-19 12:00:14 GMT)
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"approach tack" may be better in a racing context, which I hadn't thought of when I first answered
Approach Tack - The tack that is headed toward and will terminate at the ..... Rounding Tack - The tack (following an approach tack) that takes a boat ...
pages.swcp.com/dcmyc/Glossary.pdf
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Note added at 1 heure (2010-11-19 12:00:14 GMT)
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"approach tack" may be better in a racing context, which I hadn't thought of when I first answered
Approach Tack - The tack that is headed toward and will terminate at the ..... Rounding Tack - The tack (following an approach tack) that takes a boat ...
pages.swcp.com/dcmyc/Glossary.pdf
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Sandra Mouton
: I think your translation says something a little different from the French, but there may not be a better English equivalent. See discussion entry./ I am told that an "approach tack" is a different thing. There may not be any specific term in English
33 mins
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you are right Sandra//but I think "approach tack" is fine for the context, some other good suggestions floating around too
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2 hrs
Clive Phillips
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
Works in field
United Kingdom
Defence/military specialist translator
Native in: English (Variant: British)
Works in: German to English, French to English, English
Related KudoZ points
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8
tack closest to the destination
Start out on the longest tack that will take you closest to your target destination. You will often find that the wind blows to one side of a windward objective. In our scenario, the wind blows from the northwest. Which tack would you choose? Sail the port tack first. This tack will take you on the longer leg, closer to your goal.
There may be a shorter term: gaining tack, winning tack, making-good tack?
There may be a shorter term: gaining tack, winning tack, making-good tack?
Reference:
Discussion
Of course, the wind may shift so that the tack is no longer the "winning" one: "Remember your objective--to stay on that tack that keeps you moving closest to your destination. In our scenario, you are on port tack with the wind out of the northwest. But if the wind shifts toward the north--or to the right--it will move closer to the bow ("head") of your boat. Sailors call these wind shifts "headers", and you will tack on a header to keep moving toward your destination. Before you tack, make sure the new wind direction stays steady for at least 30 seconds. Then, tack the boat right away to keep moving toward your goal."
I hope this helps a little.