Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

Bandbreite

English translation:

tolerance margin

Added to glossary by Barbara L Pavlik
Feb 3, 2017 13:45
7 yrs ago
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German term

Bandbreite

German to English Tech/Engineering Transport / Transportation / Shipping Rail Transportation Contract
"Die Aufgabenträger behalten sich darüber hinaus vor, die zur Durchführung der geschuldeten Betriebsleistungen notwendigen Zugtrassen durch einen Rahmenvertrag gemäß § 14a AEG i. V. m. § 13 EIBV unter Berücksichtigung der notwendigen ***Bandbreite*** zu sichern."

The only use I know of for "bandwidth" has to do with computing and internet, and that is clearly not the context here. Could "Band" refer to the railway line itself?
Proposed translations (English)
3 tolerance margin
4 strip width

Discussion

Mair A-W (PhD) Feb 4, 2017:
"... a range of values" or indeed a range of trains (e.g. https://www.eba.bund.de/DE/HauptNavi/FahrzeugeBetrieb/Fahrze... But I wouldn't have /thought/ that is the intention here ...
Cilian O'Tuama Feb 3, 2017:
The Bandbreite seems to be measured in minutes so Alison's Zeitfenster is looking good, although the Bandbreite is half the Zeitfenster.
phillee Feb 3, 2017:
It does look like the rail industry might use the word Bandbreite to signify a range of values rather than an amount of throughput. Really need to know the specific value they are referring to.
polyglot45 Feb 3, 2017:
I'll admit to a measure of guesswork lack of context doesn't help but I have translated this sort of stuff in the past and have a pretty good idea of what is going on. Admittedly "Bandbreite" sounds like in-house engineering jargon and it would be as well to ask the client
Alison MacG Feb 3, 2017:
See also Durch Rahmenverträge wird somit Sicherheit hinsichtlich der Verfügbarkeit von Schienenwegkapazität innerhalb eines im Rahmenvertrag festgelegten Zeitfensters (Bandbreite) über einen Zeitraum von mehreren Jahren bewirkt.
die vereinbarten Bandbreiten (Zeitfenster)
https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/DE/Sachgebiete/Eisenbahnen/...

Ein Rahmenvertrag verschafft dem Zugangsberechtigten bei Trassenkonflikten eine gesicherte Position. Zwar kann nicht eine konkrete Zugtrasse vereinbart werden, es kann jedoch eine Bandbreite festgelegt werden (z. B. für die Relation A – B Abfahrt 7:30 Uhr, Ankunft 8:00 Uhr mit einer Bandbreite von +/- 10 Minuten; dies entspricht einem Zeitfenster von insgesamt 20 Minuten), innerhalb derer dem Zugangsberechtigten ein Angebot auf Zuweisung einer Zugtrasse zu machen ist. Dies bedeutet, dass dem Zugangsberechtigten innerhalb der vertraglich vereinbarten Grenzen eine Zugtrasse zusteht.
http://bdi.eu/media/topics/germany/downloads/Entwurf_Eisenba...
philgoddard Feb 3, 2017:
We're just guessing here. There's no way of knowing without more context, which Barbara may not have.
phillee Feb 3, 2017:
If my hunch is correct, it would be something like
"secure access to the tracks necessary to fulfil the capacity requirements"
polyglot45 Feb 3, 2017:
not command/control if it is S-Bahn ICE perhaps but then that is not the topic it would seem
phillee Feb 3, 2017:
Sounds to me like they need to secure enough slots on the rail routes in order to provide the required passenger capacity.
Barbara L Pavlik (asker) Feb 3, 2017:
@polyglot45, they are regional passenger trains, including some S-Bahn service.
phillee Feb 3, 2017:
Capacity Possibly referring to the number of trains that can pass through the route in a specified time?
philgoddard Feb 3, 2017:
It doesn't just mean bandwidth. Flexibility is another option, and a dictionary would probably provide more.
polyglot45 Feb 3, 2017:
what sort of trains are these? High-speed, freight it could indeed just be that services that failed to go through as planned have to be replaced by the contractor providing the necessary train paths "Zugtrasse" via a framework agreement etc., while making allowance for the scale of the path OR - and perhaps more likely - the band widths needed for the train control/command system - it is very ambiguous
Edwin Miles Feb 3, 2017:
I'm guessing... they mean something along the lines of "scope".

Proposed translations

1 day 19 hrs
Selected

tolerance margin

used by DB in connection with this type of framework agreements

Section 4.4 Framework agreements (page 45 of the document in the first link)

c) Tolerance margins constitute permissible variance from a reference profile that may be used in the compiling of a working timetable path that was applied for in relation to a framework agreement. These are selected in such a way that under operational conditions at least three train paths can be made available. For rail infrastructure capacities the following tolerance margins apply at the very least

+ / - 3 minutes for S-Bahn (urban rapid transit) transport on purely S-Bahn lines
+ / - 5 minutes for passenger transport
+ / - 30 minutes for freight transport
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20 hrs

strip width

I found this in an on-line translation dictionary.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Cilian O'Tuama : don't believe everything you read
17 hrs
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Reference comments

58 mins
Reference:

https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Sachgebiete/Eisenbahn/Unternehmen_Instituti

https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Sac...

Look at Abbildung 25

It could well be that they have to take account of the train path price range.
To be clear, train paths are "slots" in the timetable for trips from A to B (O-D = origin-destination pairs). The infrastructure manager (DB Netz in Germany) charges different rates for these train paths "Zugtrasse" depending on things like their length, the time of day (peak/trough periods), whether the client is a regular or not, volumes, quantities, etc. etc.

It is VERY likely that missed services have to be scheduled and the contractor negotiate with the infrastructure manager to acquire the requisite train paths, while allowing for the CATEGORY of the train path.

It we are talking about commuter services, not much point in booking a replacement train path in the middle of the night!
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5 hrs
Reference:

Given in minutes

Eine Rahmenvertrags-Kapazität entspricht einer Bezugslinie (Referenztrasse, definiert durch die Zeit-, Verkehrstags- und Laufwegeangaben), aus der sich die symmetrische Abweichung von den Ankunfts- und Abfahrtzeiten der Bezugslinie definiert. Die symmetrische Abweichung von der Bezugslinie wird Bandbreite genannt. In Ziffer 4.4.1 c) SNB 2015 wurden folgende nach Verkehrsarten differenzierte Mindestbandbreiten festgelegt:
- +/- 3 Minuten für S-Bahn auf eigenen Strecken
- +/- 5 Minuten für übrigen Personenverkehr
- +/- 30 Minuten für Güterverkeh

https://fahrweg.dbnetze.com/file/fahrweg-de/6189002/bZc2VIK4...
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