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Glossary entry

Greek term or phrase:

composite (return)

English translation:

σύνθετη απόδοση

Added to glossary by Ioanna Karamitsa
May 22, 2013 19:33
10 yrs ago
Greek term

composite (return)

Greek to English Bus/Financial Finance (general)
"Based on Global Fixed Income (IG) composite return. The composite includes all fully discretionary, fee-paying actively managed Global Fixed Income accounts with a minimum market value $3 million. There are differences between the composite return and the XXX Fund including differences in the amount of assets under management, cash flows, fees and expenses and applicable regulatory requirements."
Proposed translations (English)
5 +2 σύνθετη απόδοση
4 εταιρική φορολογική δήλωση
4 -2 μέσος όρος σύνθετη (αποδοσις)
References
Composite tax return

Discussion

Nadia-Anastasia Fahmi May 25, 2013:
Dear Sir, Show me one instance where I have disagreed with any of your suggestions and posted nasty comments and I will apologise publicly.
However, you should also do the same as your attitued and responses to many of MY colleagues have been - to say the least - very annoying but we have been very polite and let it slide as we prefer to dedicate our time to making a living not "debating" on pages such as KudoZ, where such debates have no place.
A "peaceful and tranquil week-end" to you too.
transphy May 25, 2013:
Madam, I refuse to stoop to your level. You have no right to be personal with people just because you disagree with them. I could put infront of you a lot of cases I disagreed with you but did not come back to insult and patronise you. Reconsider your portrayal of being mother-fix-it or mother-know-all and stop telling people what to do. I am going to stay on the forum, despite your kind request, and, if you do not agree with my suggestions you write 'disagree' without nasty comments. Have a peaceful and tranquil week-end.
Nadia-Anastasia Fahmi May 25, 2013:
Dear transphy, That is YOUR, as you said, understanding. Things in this specific translation field are miles away from it. Each Fund reports quartely the results and returns of their investments, including breakdowns by sector, FX, country, and much more.
Each Fund consists of X number of sub-funds where shareholders and/or unitholders hold "accounts". Don't confuse these accounts with the Fund's and/or sub-funds' investments.
Have you ever seen a Fund quarterly report and, most important have your ever been assigned the translation of such documents? No, because you are not a translator and I am really wondering what you are doing on ProZ. There are so many other forums you could register with to pass your time, why bother with this one - and particularly KudoZ, which is intended for professionals of the field seeking their peers input when they are not sure of how to translate a term?
I've said what I have to say and I have a translation to go back to, so good morning and enjoy your weekend!
transphy May 24, 2013:
MY understanding is that the 'composite return' is the AGGREGATE return of the 'fund', which is a conglomeration of many accounts,
'..including fully discretionary, fee-paying actively managed' ones, amongst others. It also clearly says and refers to 'Global' Fixed Income Investments. A basket of Invstments, a 'Fund', του οποίου κάθε μια επένδυση αποφέρει μιαν απόδοση ξεχωριστά. A Fund does not advertise its results as individual performances of each of its Investments(except in their finer analysis). They give a 'synoptic' Increase/decrease--gain/loss as an 'Average' of the percentages gained or lost. At least, that is how I know it from my experience of
Investing. Personally, I have an Annuity, which is an Investment in a Pacific Fund with an annual 'composite return' of x%.
Nadia-Anastasia Fahmi May 24, 2013:
I beg to differ, The compsite here is the composite return of the index and not the fund.

Moreover, the "accounts" here refer to the clients' portfolio of fixed income investments and not the Fund's investments., which in this specific case would be referred to as "positions".
transphy May 24, 2013:
My reasoning was this:- The text says,
<<..The composite includes all fully discretionary, fee-paying actively managed Global Fixed Income accounts ...>>. This is an indication there are 'different' accounts in the portfolio. Each A/c is a ' 'Fixed Income' investment producing ITS return. These various returns are 'pooled' together and their AVERAGE is the 'composite return'.

Proposed translations

+2
1 day 22 hrs
Selected

σύνθετη απόδοση

Εφόσον το κείμενό σου αναφέρεται σε επενδυτικά κεφάλαια (βλέπω ένα ΧΧΧ Fund στο κείμενο που παραθέτεις).

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Note added at 1 day22 hrs (2013-05-24 17:58:51 GMT)
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Όσο για το "Global Fixed Income (IG)" είναι ένας Παγκόσμιος Δείκτης Σταθερού Εισοδήματος. Οι επενδύσεις του αμοιβαίου κεφαλαίου παρακολουθούν αυτόν τον δείκτη και η απόδοσή του εξαρτάται από τη σύνθετη απόδοση του δείκτη.

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Note added at 1 day22 hrs (2013-05-24 18:23:59 GMT)
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Επίσης, ξέχασα να επισημάνω ότι το "Global Fixed Income (IG)" δεν μεταφράζεται. Είναι "Με βάση τη σύνθετη απόδοση του δείκτη...."
Reference:

http://tinyurl.com/pn9c4rs

Peer comment(s):
agree Nick Lingris
16 mins
Ευχαριστώ, Νίκο. Καλό βράδυ και καλό Σ/Κ! Επιστρέφω στον εφιάλτη μου :-)
agree Dave Bindon
25 mins
Thank you, Dave. Have a nice evening ahead and a wonderful weekend!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you, Nadia!"
3 hrs

εταιρική φορολογική δήλωση

(μη φορολογικού κατοίκου) για ΕΠΕ κλπ
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-2
19 hrs

μέσος όρος σύνθετη (αποδοσις)

I believe the term, 'composite(return)' was taken out of context and I would suggest looking at the whole sentence and re-constructing it in Greek. The following is my sggestion:-

***Επί βάση μέσου όρου απόδοσις σύνθετων πανκοσμίων σταθερού εισοδήματος επενδύσεων(IG)***

Composite Definition | Investopedia
www.investopedia.com/terms/c/composite.asp‎
A grouping of equities, indexes or other factors combined in a standardized way, providing a useful statistical measure of overall market or sector performance ...
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Composite Definition - What is Composite? - Investor Glossary
www.investorglossary.com/composite.htm‎
Find out right now with a helpful definition and links related to Composite. ... Investor Glossary-composite Insightful stock market charts - Click here investor ...

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Note added at 19 hrs (2013-05-23 14:43:02 GMT)
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A composite, or composite index, is an** aggregation** of components to produce a broad statistical measure. A stock index, for example, is a composite index as it combines individual stock prices to produce one number that represents the market as a whole.
Peer comment(s):
disagree Nadia-Anastasia Fahmi : Μόνο στην περίπτωση ενός δείκτη (που συμπεριλαμβάνει και μια ομάδα μετοχών όπως λέει η Investopedia). Εδώ, όμως, αναφέρεται σε αμοιβαίο κεφάλαιο και όταν ψάχνουμε τον έναν όρο χωρίς σύνδεση με τον άλλον, οδηγούμαστε σε λάθος αποτελέσματα. Και, "απόδοση"
1 day 3 hrs
disagree Dave Bindon : I don't believe 'composite return' is out of context or needs rewording.
1 day 3 hrs
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Reference comments

3 hrs
Reference:

Composite tax return

a joint tax return submitted by two or more people
Reference:

http://www.revenue.wi.gov/faqs/ise/composite.html#comp1

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