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Glossary entry

Italian term or phrase:

Infusi/pietre innescati

English translation:

batch stones - fused

Added to glossary by Barbara L Pavlik
Dec 1, 2021 13:58
2 yrs ago
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Italian term

Infusi/pietre innescati

Italian to English Tech/Engineering Food & Drink Bottling & Bottles
This is in a list of major defects in glass bottles. I've searched through quite a few long lists of bottle defects, and I'm confident that "pietri" is stones, but the rest of the phrase escapes me. The literal translation of "infusi", of course, is infusions, but I don't find any evidence that that term is used in bottle manufacturing. If stones are solid inclusions of foreign matter, might infusions be (once) liquid inclusions? The "innescati" doesn't tell me much either. The possibilities are primed, triggered or ignited, but at least to my mind, none of these make much sense in the context. Speaking of context, there isn't any more of it. Sorry. And thanks in advance for your help.
Proposed translations (English)
4 stones
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Dec 2, 2021 08:04: Kate Chaffer changed "Level" from "Non-PRO" to "PRO"

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PRO (3): martini, philgoddard, Kate Chaffer

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Discussion

Barbara L Pavlik (asker) Dec 6, 2021:
Reference for innescati See reference to melted and unmelted batch stones (batch stones are inclusions of raw materials in the batch of materials used to make the glass that got separated out and either melted or didn't https://eprints.soas.ac.uk/30324/1/4614_Desjardins.pdf
Barbara L Pavlik (asker) Dec 6, 2021:
Reference for "batch stones" https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:std:iso:7348:ed-1:v1:en
Barbara L Pavlik (asker) Dec 3, 2021:
As an additional note, the defect <2 mm is considered a minor defect, while the other is considered a major, or functional, defect.
Barbara L Pavlik (asker) Dec 3, 2021:
I was wondering the same thing as Phil about innescati referring to diameter. I don't think it does, although I do think EleoE is right that infusi and pietre are roughly the same thing (like a solid inclusion as Phil said). Especially because there is a later entry that says, "Infusi/pietre < 2 mm non innescati". I'm still confused about innescati though. Because if you look at the literal definition of innescare, anything that seems to fit (sort of) the context (like ignite) would imply the exact opposite of what a solid inclusion would be. I think I need to post that as a separate term. And keep looking.
philgoddard Dec 1, 2021:
I'm guessing... Infusi is unfused or unmelted ingredients, perhaps because they were foreign bodies with a higher melting point or weren't heated to a high enough temperature. And other bits could have ignited instead of melting.

Proposed translations

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stones

Infusi and pietre are the same thing.
... Con il termine di infuso o pietra si definisce ogni inclusione solida presente nel vetro, costituita o contenente materiali cristallini...
http://mineraliindustriali.serverand.it/wp-content/uploads/2...

Innescati refers to the size of the inclusion.
... Infusi di diametro ≥ 1 mm o innescati
http://www.covim.it/uploads/Pagine/CAPITOLATO_COVIM_IT.pdf
There's no need to translate it because "stone" already includes larger inclusions. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/sca.4950230...

https://www.seekbottles.com/2021/04/15/glass-container-quali...
Peer comment(s):
neutral philgoddard : I don't see why you say "innescati refers to the size".
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