Ante Bellum

English translation: Before the war (e.g. the Civil War in the USA)

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Latin term or phrase:	Ante Bellum
English translation:	Before the war (e.g. the Civil War in the USA)
Entered by:	Pnina

21:47 Nov 23, 2004

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Latin term or phrase: Ante Bellum

"Kezi's Ante Bellum Fashion Collection. Three 1860's Fashion Patterns: Ante Bellum Undergarments. Ante Bellum Ball Gown. Ante Bellum Day Dress."

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Pnina KudoZ activity Questions: 198 (none open) (2 closed without grading) Answers: 1805 Israel
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Ante Bellum

Explanation:
leave it untranslated. It is used here in the US to describe a period just before the Civil wAR (1861-65) - and concerns not only Ante Bellum Dresses but Ante Bellum Architecture (Plantation Houses, some of which you still can find particularly in Louisiana or Georgia).

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Life on the Old Plantation in Ante-Bellum Days, or, A Story Based on Facts. by IE
Lowery (Irving E.), b. 1850. Documenting the American South Logo. ...
docsouth.unc.edu/lowery/menu.html - 8k - 22. Nov. 2004

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swisstell
Italy
Local time: 14:31

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Thank you very much for your answer and your comprehensive explanation. I am thanking Vicky for the useful links.
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Summary of answers provided

4 +6

Ante Bellum

swisstell

4 +5

Ante Bellum/ pre-war

David Hollywood

4 +3

pre war

Ewa Nowicka

4 +1

before the (Civil) war

Vicky Papaprodromou

Answers

4 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +3

pre war

Explanation:
from before the Civil War here

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Ewa Nowicka
United Kingdom
Local time: 13:31
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

Polish

3 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +5

Ante Bellum/ pre-war

Explanation:
:)

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by Kenneth M. Stampp. BACKGROUND. This is a long and boring book which looks at
slavery (the Peculiar Institution) in the Ante-Bellum (Latin for Pre-War) South. ...

David Hollywood
Local time: 09:31
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

neutral

swisstell: not good enough, David, unless you specify the US Civil War. Of course in strict translation it is "before hostilities" but this clearly refers to a given period in the US history

1 min

-> take your point but my primary suggestion is Ante Bellum which is clear :)

agree

verbis: Ante Bellum, I would as well leave it untranslated for the sake of marketing :)

2 hrs

agree

karmenu attard (X): I also would not translate it

4 hrs

agree

tappi_k: leave it as it is

5 hrs

agree

Joseph Brazauskas: SwissTell makes a good point. There have been, and still remain, thousands of civil wars amongst thousands of peoples besides the American.

5 hrs

-> true but the rendering here is Ante Bellum (unqualified). My reference indicates that we're talking about the US but this won't appear in the translation (and doesn't need to be included in my view). Interesting debate anyway :)

agree

Kim Metzger

16 hrs

4 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +6

Ante Bellum

swisstell
Italy
Local time: 14:31
Native speaker of: German
PRO pts in category: 4

Grading comment

Thank you very much for your answer and your comprehensive explanation. I am thanking Vicky for the useful links.

8 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

before the (Civil) war

Explanation:
literal meaning = before (the) war
http://www.sacklunch.net/Latin/A/antebellum.html

The impact of the ante-bellum southern plantations on the lives of their black and white inhabitants, as well as on the political, economic, and cultural life of the South as a whole, is one of the most fascinating and controversial problems of present-day American historical research. Depending upon the labor of slaves who constituted the great majority of the American black population, the plantations were both homes and business enterprises for a white, southern elite. They were the largest, the most commercialized, and on the whole, the most efficient and specialized agricultural enterprises of their day, producing the bulk of the South's staple crops of tobacco, cotton, sugar, rice, and hemp. Their proprietors were entrepreneurs who aspired to and sometimes, after a generation or two, achieved the status of a cultivated landed aristocracy. Many distinguished themselves not only in agriculture but in the professions, in the military, in government service, and in scientific and cultural endeavors.

http://www.lexisnexis.com/academic/guides/southern_hist/plan...

Ante Bellum South

A Southern ideology -based on aristocracy- justified slavery. Many (crazy) explanations were put forward like: "the African race is biologically inferior" or "physically and mentally under-developped". Through slavery, they could adjust to a better kind of life, be taught new morals and the "true religion". All that was part of the Southern ideology: "some people must work and sweat to provide those in charge with leadership". The Southern society is hedonistic when the North advocates the puritan ethic (moral - virtue - hard work, according to the Bible).
http://www.skyminds.net/civilization/10_ante-bellum_south.ph...

Vicky Papaprodromou
Greece
Local time: 15:31
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

Greek

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