Mar 27, 2008 23:19
16 yrs ago
Russian term

Кята

Russian to English Art/Literary Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting
Они заготовляют колоды в лесу для пильни. У них два "кята". Сена работал на "бунту" (скиду), обивал сучья и метил колоды. Алексей работал на кяту.

Спасибо.
Proposed translations (English)
1 something derived from 'cut'

Discussion

Zoriana Garko Rawlins (asker) Mar 28, 2008:
Да, кят I found the explanation of this term but still I cannot translate it into English. Kyat is a dukhobor term. It has something to do with wood. Basically it is not even a Russian word, it is a combination of dukhobour and russian languages. So kyat has nothing to do with the baked goods. Men, still help me!:)
Yuri Geifman Mar 27, 2008:
судя по грамматике, похоже что это не кята, а "кят"... но это мало что меняет - откуда текст?

Proposed translations

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something derived from 'cut'

Well, that's a tough one. All I can come up with is just some wild guessing.

Provided we are talking about Canadian dukhobors, one thing I can say for sure, this word has nothing to do with Caucasian cuisine.

I am sure you have already checked this article: http://www.inst.at/trans/15Nr/06_1/schaarschmidt.htm

Then, since "кята" obviously refers to sawmills/wood processing, it could be derived from English. Possibly it should be traced back to "cut"...

Still no idea what that could actually mean. Possibly some sort of woodcutter's appliance - an axe, saw or something like that.

I'll try to ask a colleague of mine who is more experienced in this field. By the way, when does the story take place?

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Note added at 14 hrs (2008-03-28 13:46:58 GMT)
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By the way, are the quotes in your text sample taken from original text, or this is just the way to mark unclear terms? I suspect the latter.

Unfortunately, all I can say, that these are words from doukhobor dialect. As Yuri mentioned the would be "кят" and "бунт" ("скид") in nominative with -у added in Ablative/Prepositional case.

Check these articles, they describe woodcutting similar to your text and could give you a hint:
- http://www.doukhobor.org/Castlegar.htm (Agrarian development section)
- http://www.doukhobor.org/Boundary.htm (Industries)

Just logically, I would suggest that the guy with "кят" was cutting logs, and the guy with "бунт (скид)" (skid - ?) preparing and transporting them. Then "кят" could be axe/saw and "бунт" - sled or something like that. This also fits into "у них два кята" - they would've naturally have a pair of saws/axes.

On the other hand, "на кяту" suggests that it was something more complicated. Rather a mechanism or device than a hand tool.

I'm afraid you'll have to contact some doukhobor dialect specialist. Try to e-mail people at www.doukhobor.org - they have a huge cache of doukhobor documents and could possibly shed some light onto it.

Note from asker:
Thank you very much. I will contact any of them. Zoriana
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