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LilianNekipelov Egyesült Államok Local time: 23:10 orosz - angol + ...
They don't have to move anywhere
Aug 9, 2013
most American sources use "primary language" -- not "native" It would be only 308 million, I was good at math. But I am really on vacation from this thread.
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XXXphxxx (X) Egyesült Királyság Local time: 04:10 portugál - angol + ...
Mother tongue
Aug 9, 2013
I presume there are as many objections to this term, although it is probably the more common term globally?
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LilianNekipelov Egyesült Államok Local time: 23:10 orosz - angol + ...
This is a term invented by the Catholic Church
Aug 9, 2013
apparently to refer to something (the language in which they preached, other than Latin) -- not anything to do with anyone's mother, although most people think it is the first language of their mother.
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Ty Kendall Egyesült Királyság Local time: 04:10 héber - angol
Invented by the Catholic Church?
Aug 9, 2013
LilianBNekipelo wrote:
apparently to refer to something (the language in which they preached, other than Latin) -- not anything to do with anyone's mother, although most people think it is the first language of their mother.
Where do you get these factoids?
factoid noun "A factoid is a questionable or spurious (unverified, false, or fabricated) statement presented as a fact, but without supporting evidence" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factoid
And if you're going to quote Wikipedia - the article on "mother tongue" there only says: " The term was used by Catholic monks", not invented.
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LilianNekipelov Egyesült Államok Local time: 23:10 orosz - angol + ...
No -- actually I read about it is some other books before,
Aug 9, 2013
but I don't really keep tract of all the books I have read in my life -- the list would be too long. The origin of this term is worth investigating, though. I am not sure -- you are right, if they invented it -- they made it popular and widely used. It was the language of the tribes -- understood by all its members -- more like a national language. They had to preach in that language to be understood.
I just realized that I really love Tolkien -- he might be have been one of t... See more
but I don't really keep tract of all the books I have read in my life -- the list would be too long. The origin of this term is worth investigating, though. I am not sure -- you are right, if they invented it -- they made it popular and widely used. It was the language of the tribes -- understood by all its members -- more like a national language. They had to preach in that language to be understood.
I just realized that I really love Tolkien -- he might be have been one of the few people who would understand exactly what I have been talking about for days. He was a really fine linguist -- with a great linguistic sensitivity. I mostly agree with his ideas about various types of languages.
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