Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Polish term or phrase:
melina
English translation:
den, blind pig/tiger (old-fashioned); crack house, shooting den (narkotykowa)
Polish term
United Kingdom
Interpretation and Translation Services
Native in: Polish (Variant: Standard-Poland) 
melina
chodzi o okreslenie miejsca, ktore jest brudne,niezadbane i gdzie sie schodza alkoholicy zeby pic
kontekst jest formalny takze prosze o odpowiedzi ktore oddaja znaczenie meliny na agielski uzywany formalnie
| 4 +3 | den |
Darius Saczuk
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| 4 | joint |
Lucyna Prochazka
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| 5 -1 | dive (as in a bad bar with cheap alcohol) |
Lena Nemeth
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| 4 -1 | butt hut |
Alexander Onishko
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Jan 29, 2013 19:51: Darius Saczuk changed "Field" from "Social Sciences" to "Art/Literary" , "Field (specific)" from "Other" to "General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters"
Feb 3, 2013 13:55: Darius Saczuk Created KOG entry
Feb 3, 2013 13:55: Darius Saczuk changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/719042">Darius Saczuk's</a> old entry - "melina"" to ""den, blind pig/tiger (old-fashioned), shooting den (narkotykowa_""
Feb 3, 2013 13:57: Darius Saczuk changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/719042">Darius Saczuk's</a> old entry - "melina"" to ""den, blind pig/tiger (old-fashioned), shooting den (narkotykowa)""
Proposed translations
United States
The Slanguage Buff
Native in: Polish (Variant: Standard-Poland) , English (Variant: US)
Works in: Polish to English, Spanish to English, English, and 4 more.
den
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Note added at 48 mins (2013-01-29 20:14:39 GMT)
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lub: CRACKHOUSE
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Note added at 6 hrs (2013-01-30 01:38:49 GMT)
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Czasami się słyszy (staroświeckie jednak) BLIND PIG</y> czy BLIND TIGER.
Za czasów prohibicji SPEAKEASY.
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Alexander Onishko
: good option but it wouls sound even better in the for like "somebody's den" - did not you heard it in that form? ||| e.g. drunkards' den?
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Thanks, Alexander. On the street people just say "den". Obviously you can "color" it with some nouns of adjectives. Again, context is key.
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Luke Evans
: Now that the *ahem* context is clearer, this seems a good choice indeed. ;)
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Thank you, Luke. I also agree with your comment regarding the Urban Dictionary. I always say, "never understimate the power of **** context". ;-)
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Icing (X)
: Łapka dla „den” :-)
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;-). Dzięki.
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Lena Nemeth
: Sorry for the disagree -- for me, 'den' has the connotation of an opium den and not a place where alcohol is served...
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No problem, but I have to disagree with your suggestion. A "dive" is a close equivalent of a "speluna" or "mordownia
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karolinadrejer
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Thank you, Karolina. :-)
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Simply good at what we do.
Native in: Polish
Works in: Polish to English, English to Polish
joint
"Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, she walks into mine." from Casablanca
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Luke Evans
: I love the reference, but it's a bit ambiguous (joint really could be any kind of place, e.g. "hamburger joint") and dated.
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Veni Vidi Vici
Native in: Russian , Ukrainian
Works in: Russian to English, English to Russian, Ukrainian to English, and 5 more.
butt hut
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Luke Evans
: You are joking, right? ;)// See discussion.
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Ehhh.. I am submitting based on the dictionary meaning - the dictionary is wrong?
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Hanna Burdon
: The Urban Dictionary is charming, but the entries are whatever the users contributed... Any dictionary can be wrong, and this one in particular.
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Thank you, Hanna! Just an attempt of brainstorming on my side :)
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Distinction in Translation
Native in: English (Variants: British, UK, US)
Works in: Polish to English
dive (as in a bad bar with cheap alcohol)
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as in 'a dive', that is...
According to that great bastion of knowledge, Wikipedia, a dive bar is a type of bar or pub [that] generally have a relaxed and informal atmosphere—they are often referred to by local residents as 'neighborhood bars,' where people in the neighborhood ga
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Darius Saczuk
: Nope. A "dive" is a a bar/restaurant with cheap booze, while a "melina" is a private residence (but not a bar) frequented by bums, where booze flows freely and people often do drugs. No problem. ;-)
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Aha, I was focused on the 'alcohol' bit -- thanks for the clarification!
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Discussion
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I'm going to permit myself to adopt a prescriptive tone on this occasion: urbandictionary.com should NOT be relied upon by translators, especially given the potential for gaffes when translating slang.
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a house (usually one in pretty shitty shape) where mad drugs are sold out of, and the kids who live there are mad ghetto lol.
but big thank u for den, got my points for it
wielkie dzieki
big thanks
Definition of DEN
1: the lair of a wild usually predatory animal
2a (1) : a hollow or cavern used especially as a hideout (2) : a center of secret activity b : a small usually squalid dwelling
gdzie kontekst jest friendly and placid and formal
pejoratywnosc meliny jest oczywista nawet bez kontekstu